Seeking God’s Plan (Part V)

Posted by Roberta Grimes • May 08, 2021 • 33 Comments
Jesus, The Source

Did we in our own strength confide, our striving would be losing.
Were not the right Man on our side, the Man of God’s own choosing.
Dost ask who that may be? Christ Jesus, it is He.
The Lord of hosts His name, from age to age the same,
And He must win the battle.
– Martin Luther (1483-1546) from “A Mighty Fortress is Our God” (1529)

When we try to consider human history from the viewpoint of the Godhead Itself, we can begin to see the life of Jesus a bit more as the Godhead might see it. Working this out has been a series of revelations. What seem like throwaway lines in the Gospels have a background and a purpose, and the Lord’s core teachings can be traced back to words of the prophets in ways that make sense to us. From a more Godly perspective, the march of human history over the past 200,000 years looks to be spiritually arrow-straight and highly purposeful! If you have the time, please look back at the past articles in this series, in order. What we are trying to understand as deeply as we can and from the perspective of the Creator is the actual process by which this illusory universe has unfolded for humankind. All the invented past as it now exists is the Godhead’s attempt to educate us spiritually, and we know that because the entire history of this universe is freshly created in each micro-instant. So what is in the past is only and completely what the Godhead wants us to find there Now!

Reading the Gospels from this perspective is a great exercise. It reinforces for us even more deeply Who Jesus is in relation to the Godhead. At times, you almost can see His mind working! And it lets you glimpse a little of the Godhead’s thinking while an aspect of the Godhead, having been born in a human body, interacts with people who can have no idea of the miracle they are witnessing. This exploration by itself could fill a book! But we will here consider just a couple of topics. Let’s briefly watch and listen from our amazing new perspective as the Lord goes about His earthly life:

John the Baptist Was Elijah Reincarnated to Fulfill Isaiah’s Prophesy

 One of the things that we can do now is to look more closely at the role of John the Baptist. For Christians, the point of the Gospel narrative about the Baptist is that baptism itself is spiritually magical. But when we try to take the Godhead’s perspective, we realize that the ritual is beside the point: it could have been a handshake, a certain kind of hat, or almost anything that John was doing which allowed God to single Jesus out, tie Him to prophesy, and announce that He had come from God and was representing God on earth. There had to be such an anointing moment. Without it, the whole ministry of Jesus might not in retrospect have been seen as sufficiently special to have been marked out and remembered in such a way that even after two thousand years He remains among the world’s most beloved people. Note here that the word “repent” has been changed to “reform your mind,” which is closer to the meaning of the Greek word used. And John also talks about the process that was central to the message of Jesus. John the Baptist declares that the focus of his work and the Lord’s is to bring the kingdom of God (or heaven) on earth. Here is what Matthew says about the Baptist:

Now in those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea, saying, “Reform your mind, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” For this is the one referred to by Isaiah the prophet when he said, “The voice of one crying in the wilderness, ‘Make ready the way of the Lord. Make His  paths straight!’” (MT 3:1-3). Jesus says of John after His death, “A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and one who is more than a prophet. This is the one about whom it is written, ‘Behold, I send My messenger ahead of You, Who will prepare Your way before You.’ … For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come. He who has ears to hear, let him hear” (MT 11:9-15). Especially note that final appeal for us to listen for a hidden meaning! I am coming to think that the truth of reincarnation is something else that Jesus had wanted to introduce to us, despite the obstacle of listening Temple guards nearby. The Council of Nicaea in 325 reportedly removed from the Gospels all the references to reincarnation it was able to identify, but these more subtle hints remain!

One thing that strikes you now is that Jesus didn’t simply begin to teach, but rather He burst upon the scene when John baptized Him in a tableau that seems to have been divinely scripted. As is true of so much that is in the Gospels, Christianity later added a nonsensical religious gloss by calling this the moment when the Holy Spirit entered Him; but we know now that Jesus was born in that body as a Being already perfected and divine. Here is a description of the Lord’s baptism:

Then Jesus arrived from Galilee at the Jordan coming to John, to be baptized by him. But John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I have need to be baptized by You, and do You come to me?” But Jesus answering said to him, “Permit it at this time; for in this way it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he permitted Him. After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased” (MT 3:13-17). This appears to be the way that God chose to introduce Jesus as being an aspect of the Godhead. Of course, primitive people then took the word “son” literally and created a whole virgin-birth narrative, when what the Godhead seems to be saying is that Jesus is an aspect of God and is acting as God’s emissary.

Later in His ministry Jesus took Peter, James, and John to a mountaintop where they encountered Moses and Elijah. Jesus was there “transfigured,” with His face and clothes shining bright. Then “a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold, a voice out of the cloud said, “This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased; listen to Him!” (MT 17:5). Christianity makes this scene all about the Lord’s bodily transfiguration, but in fact He just briefly showed Himself to His disciples in an astral body to match the astral bodies of Moses and Elijah. What was significant about this scene was the Godhead’s reiteration that the teachings of Jesus are the most important part of His mission. And even with that, those teachings are not being taken seriously by Christianity, even today! Jesus told us that His teachings are the point of His mission when He said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free” (JN 8:31-32). And here we see the Godhead making that same point!

Jesus Was Establishing a Narrative About Who He Was

One of the things worth wondering about is whether Jesus always was aware that He was God on earth. I suspect that, like the rest of us, His life-plan was initially internal and not entirely clear to Him, but He was feeling driven toward it even in childhood. When He was twelve, His parents took Him to Jerusalem for the Passover and He stayed behind when they started for home. They returned to the city and spent three days searching for Him, and they found their little boy in the temple in learned discourse with the teachers there. “When they saw Him, they were astonished; and His mother said to Him, “Son, why have You treated us this way? Behold, Your father and I have been anxiously looking for You.” And He said to them, “Why is it that you were looking for Me? Did you not know that I had to be about My Father’s business?” (LK 2:48-49)

It seems clear that by the age of thirty Jesus fully understood His unique identity and His very special mission. Several times as He was carrying out His healing and teaching ministry, He asked His disciples who they thought He was, and who people in general thought He was. For example, Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God” (MT 16:13-16).

As an aspect of the Godhead, Jesus should have been able to discern what people were saying about Him without His having to ask the question! But what He seems to have been doing here was getting them to think about it, and narrowing their possible choices until they themselves could arrive at His true nature. He even argued with their wrong guesses. For example, Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them a question: “What do you think about the Christ, whose son is He?” They said to Him, “The son of David.” He said to them, “Then how does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying, ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Until I put Your enemies beneath Your feet”’? If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his son?” No one was able to answer Him a word, nor did anyone dare from that day on to ask Him another question (MT 42:41-46).

That Jesus was the promised Christ seems to have been where His followers settled. Then after Jesus was arrested, the elders took Him aside and questioned Him, saying, “If You are the Christ, tell us.” But He said to them, “If I tell you, you will not believe; and if I ask a question, you will not answer. But from now on the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God.” And they all said, “Are You the Son of God, then?” And He said to them, “Yes, I am” (LK 22:66-70). So, is this where Jesus finally settled? Knowing as we do now that He came to us as an aspect of the Godhead, and knowing how deferential Spirit actually is to our own thoughts and mindset, it seems possible that He found both “Christ” and “Son of God” to be close enough approximations to a truth that, even today, few people who are now in bodies are perhaps quite ready to understand.

Our five-week-long attempting to look through God’s eyes has taught us to understand God about as well as the cat dozing in your lap understands you. She has no way to envision your trips outside your home, your reasons for changing clothing, or what you are doing now on your computer. All she has learned about you is that you are worthy of her trust. You meet her needs. You are infinite kindness and perfect love. And that is quite a bit, as we think about it. Perhaps it is all that really matters.

That word above all earthly powers, no thanks to them, abideth.
The Spirit and the gifts are ours through Him who with us sideth.
Let goods and kindred go, this mortal life also.
The body they may kill; God’s truth abideth still.
His kingdom is forever!
– Martin Luther (1483-1546) from “A Mighty Fortress is Our God” (1529)

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33 thoughts on “Seeking God’s Plan (Part V)

  1. I like this explanation. It makes a lot of sense, unlike the literal Son of God explanation. I also like the “reform your mind” translation to replace the word “repent.” He couldn’t say he was part of the Godhead. No one would know what he was talking about and the Council of Nicea would have had a fit.

    1. Hello, Lola.
      I have to say, I like Roberta Grimes’ interpretation as well. I especially like where “repent” was shown to be more accurate as “reform your mind”.
      If you see my other posts I can be a bit of a trickster, but I really honor what Ms Grimes is doing here.

      1. Oh my dear Jason, we wouldn’t change you by a single bit! Thank you for your presence and your contributions here. This is such a wonderful voyage that all of us are making together!

    2. Thank you, dear Lola! I agree with you. The more we study the mission of Jesus, the more we find to admire. He threaded a really impossible needle, telling universal truths in ways that we would more deeply understand only now – and now is clearly the time for which a lot of what He said was intended – but at the same time not triggering either the Temple guards spying on him or the Romans who would be starting a few hundred years later the religious package that would be preserving those teachings for a couple of millennia to come!

      Although of course we can’t even make these observations without taking into account some very recent new understandings. We now know based upon objective evidence three essential facts:

      1) Jesus was born as an aspect of the Godhead, literally God in a human body;

      2) Time as we experience it is a mere artifact of this material illusion, and all that really exists is Now; and

      3) This illusion is being freshly created in each micro-instant, including the entire “past.”

      And wow, what a difference that makes!

  2. Dear Lola,

    If the disciples and later larger segments of the population had a firm grasp on who Jesus was and what he was teaching, there would be no church just as there was no church set up by Socrates. No church no Nicene Council.



      1. Ah, my dear Lola, but that all may have been part of the plan! Since we know now that the past is being freshly created in each moment, we have to assume that there are no “mistakes” in all of human history. This is a hit upside the head for me, when I have been assuming for the past two decades that Christianity as a religion was in some ways a “mistake.” Nope. Apparently not! … Or at least, that has become my new working assumption 🙂

    1. Dear Cookie, I think you are right about this. There is a lot of evidence surviving in the Gospels, even despite the church councils’ later editing, that suggests that Jesus actually intended to end religions altogether and teach us to instead relate to the Godhead individually. Of course, in a reality outside of time the fact that all religions didn’t end “right away” in human terms doesn’t mean it isn’t happening now just as it “always” was intended to happen!

  3. Hello.
    I like reading your posts. I truly honor the work you are doing to separate the teachings of Jesus from the Christian ideas of hellfire and fear of God.
    Since you had brought up the idea of reincarnation, I had heard in some esoteric writing that Jesus was the reincarnated Elisha, who was the companion of Elijah. I am guessing based on this writing and other posts that you would disagree with this, but I thought I’d bring up this point because others who read this might have read the same thing, and would like a clarification.
    Also, it is interesting how a number of people on here have their own guides, or at least feelings of guidance. I seem to have the same, although it is certainly a quiet one, more of a feedback loop or a compass. It has me now starting A Course In Miracles, I am slowly reading the Text, and have reached Lesson 8. My guide doesn’t have you as a teacher of me, but a colleague, sometimes on parallel paths, so any hints on what to expect with the Course would be helpful.
    But, goodness me, my guide likes to take me off the beaten path sometimes. (If Thomas has the ability to read me, he will know what I mean. The Sacred Darkness). (And, as a game, let’s see if anyone else’s guides can read me. Winner gets a happy face emoji) But, I will respect the space, and write mostly where your path and mine run in parallel. Please forgive me that sometimes I play the trickster.
    Oh, and just to prove it is me, in January at the three hospital complex where I work, we had 84 COVID-19 inpatients. Now, we have 3, one for each hospital.

    1. Dear Jason, a number of people have asked me whether the Members of the Godhead – Jesus included – would have come up through the reincarnation ranks to arrive eventually at spiritual perfection, just as apparently one day all of us will, each in our own time. I think it makes sense now to assume that they did evolve that way, since otherwise I’m not sure how they could understand enough about human life to be of use to us; indeed, even after just a few generations away, upper-level beings seem to feel shakily out of touch with the details of earth-life. My supposition now is that Jesus had perhaps been a spiritual over-achiever who had retained an ardent wish to help those still progressing on earth; and we generally concentrate in just one or a few cultures, to make our cultural acclimatization easier. So if that is all true, then for Jesus to have been one of the great Hebrew prophets is not a bad bet. But, who knows?

      Where our guides are concerned, of course all of us have them, and many of us have more than one! Most guides prefer to be that “still, small voice,” but if we want a more open relationship most of them will give that to us. They are wonderful friends to have in what is really a pretty tough process, this life on earth.

      And I did the Course with a study group. I strongly recommend that, for those who want to get the most out of it: most Unity churches have an active study group or two. Although of course you can indeed do it on your own! It just is important if you are on your own that you take it very slowly, since many of the concepts are so very foreign to our understanding.

      And my dear Jason, so long as people respect others here, no one minds at all if you are a trickster!

      1. Hello again.
        I was curious about the story of Jesus being a reincarnation of Elisha, because it established a link with Elijah, who in this esoteric telling reincarnated as John the Baptist. The teacher returning with the pupil, but with the roles reversed, Jesus taking the larger role this time.
        About the Course, I figure it will take one year to get through the Lessons, and at least 250 days to get through the Text. Notice the Lessons are doing a lot of deconstruction of the external world and one’s thoughts, while the text is making a rather hard line distinguishing between this world, corrupt and unreal, and an eternal True World.

        Since it looks like none of the guides want to play with my puzzle, I will spill the beans. I am writing some Renfield stories. Maybe they will be published, maybe not. What would the spiritual system of Dracula look like? What would Renfield be, if written not as a slave but as one in whom Dracula had met his match, but not as a vampire? One who was written of by both Bram Stoker and Oscar Wilde? But, I guess people’s guides don’t want to go to a world of night, where night’s creatures come out to play. The bat, the owl and the spider. The blessed darkness. (Insert maniacal Renfield laugh here). In all seriousness, I would like to get published. I keep getting “hints” about aspects of the story. I already put my first story on a place that one can share vampire fiction, concerning premature burial, and was accused at first of plagiarism because it looked too professional.

        1. Dear Jason, to be frank, if you were trying to interest our guides you should know that most of them probably would have no idea of what a vampire might be, let alone who Dracula is. As you know, time is not really linear where they are, and anyway most of them likely lived their last earth-lifetime before the book was published at the end of the 19th century so modern-day cultural references would leave most of them cold. It surprised me very much when I first met Thomas through a medium, and he joked about what modern-day political ads would have said about Thomas Jefferson. But that level of modern cultural awareness is unusual!

  4. Quote from above: ‘ “…listen to Him!” (MT 17:5).’

    Listening is one of the hardest things to do—don’t interrupt, don’t anticipate, don’t interpolate. Take it in and think about it.

    1. PS-it seems that Jesus is still speaking; as it was then, it is now— not through traditional, or even expected means. We still have listening to do.

      1. Dear Mike, this is profoundly said! As the veil between realities continues to thin and as the effort goes on to elevate us spiritually as rapidly as possible, this need you see for us to be listening carefully deeply resonates. No one in a body now knows the details of this process, nor the timing, so it is going to be important that we yield to Spirit in all things!

  5. Dearest Roberta,
    This five week series on looking through God’s eyes has been quite perspective altering. It has been a refreshing way to look at things; as enjoyable as it was vertiginous at times. Perhaps even the sincere, sustained attempt to put aside our human perspective and long held conditioning has done us more good than we realize. I mean, simply the attempt to try and see life and purpose from God’s point of view, has no doubt seeded change at a deeper-than-conscious level. The biggest inner changes seem to occur beyond my own mind’s workings, I find.

    And as you well infer, we may be able to grasp some truths about the Divine viewpoint, but our human minds cannot really fathom the Infinite Mind. Hence, a human can “understand God about as well as the cat dozing in your lap understands you.”

    Somehow Roberta, I prefer your image of the cat on the person’s lap to the time worn comparison of the artist painting a picture where we humans are just the brush. (The comparison to a paintbrush always feels too cold.) A brush is an inanimate tool, to be put aside without further thought. A cat though, is a higher order mammal with a mind, emotions and an animal soul. This image is more encouraging, as a feline is an endearing, relatable being. 😉

    Perhaps the protective person, the adoring cat and the shared love itself are all one Divinity after all.

    1. Oh my dear Efrem, I am coming more and more to see that the most important truth we can glean from more intensively studying the Godhead is just how very much each one of us is loved! We tend to think in terms of seven-plus billion people. How much could any one of those people really matter to God? But the Godhead loves each of us as if there were only one of us. It is impossible for us to adequately appreciate the degree to which each one of us is loved!

      1. At my mother’s funeral Mass yesterday, the gospel reading was a passage from John I was completely unaware of; Jesus prays to God regarding His disciples: “24 Father, they are your gift to me. I wish that where I am they also may be with me, that they may see my glory that you gave me, because you loved me before the foundation of the world.”

        Read the whole amazing passage here: John 17: 20-24

        1. Thank you for this, my dear Mike! Actually, the whole of John’s Chapter 17 is good to read. I don’t use it because it is lengthy, and because I think it was garbled by the translators to refer just to Christians, when Jesus in general is not so exclusive; and of course, the afterlife evidence shows that everyone goes to the same afterlife, beliefs or no beliefs. My favorite part of John 17 is, I think, the Gospel truth (pardon the pun) as Jesus spoke it: “I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do. Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was” (JN 17:4-5).

          I am so glad for your mother, dear Mike! Perhaps our moms will get together and gossip about us over some celestial tea 🙂

          1. I just read that passage, Mike. It’s a beautiful expression of unity consciousness, of the oneness of us in God, and God in us, and the primacy of love which, when truly understood, is about service to the greater good of the whole, the big I rather than the little ego.The egoic mind would not want to humble itself like that. Is this alignment with the higher will of God rather than ego what Jesus was talking about when he said, “blessed are the humble?” The passage from John 17 feels like a nice encapsulation of what we’ve been discussing over this five part series on what God wants. My thoughts are with you and your mom. I went through that many years ago. I wish I knew then what I know now about the other side of life and the bigger picture.

        2. Wonderful inspiring quotes, Roberta and Mike! 🙏🏼

          Now your mother can truly dance, Mike. 🌅🕊🙂

          1. Dear Efrem, it truly is beautiful to see the transformation that death brings to elderly people! They go at once from old rickety bodies to young and beautiful bodies again, and in a place and an atmosphere so earth-like that if they die in their sleep and wake up there they often won’t believe that they have actually died. Yes, Mike’s mother is dancing indeed!

        1. Wait! What if my mother had two left feet?😉 (Actually, you are probably employing metaphor, but for the record, she did love to Jitterbug in her youth!)

          Incidentally today would be my mother’s 89th birthday.🎂

          Thank you for your kind thoughts!

          1. Happy Birthday to your Mom! And in the glorious Summerland, everyone can dance. And sing! That’s what I really look forward to now. At the moment, nobody wants me to do either. But my time will come!!

        2. Dear Efrem, thank you for your beautiful thoughts as well! Your participation here is such a gift to us all

          1. The string-theory physicist Michio Kaku says the Mind of God is cosmic music.

  6. My dear Mike, anyone who thinks that string theory makes sense is likely always hearing music anyway 🙂

    Sorry. That was unkind, but having just finished writing next week’s offering I am particularly down on science and its practitioners. So much time and effort altogether wasted on trying to prop up just one more dead-end religion!

      1. Dear Mike, as you know, I don’t write these articles. I have the title and the general idea by Monday, and then I often flounder around all week when I take breaks from other work at trying to write and make sense of the topic before Thomas steps in on Friday morning. There have been many weeks when I was pretty sure we were going to come up with nothing printable, and this was one of those weeks. But I think it’s pretty good. I await the opinions of my dear friends here!

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