His Story

Posted by Roberta Grimes • June 04, 2022 • 38 Comments

All hail the power of Jesus’s Name! Let angels prostrate fall;
Bring forth the royal diadem, and crown Him Lord of all!
Ye chosen seed of Israel’s race, ye ransomed from the fall,
Hail Him Who saves you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of all!
– Edward Perronet (1726-1792), from “All Hail the Power of Jesus’s Name” (1779)

Last week we addressed the sad inability of mainstream science to understand reality, or even to know how best to seek it, as we prepare to launch Seek Reality Online. Now this week we are going to talk about what Jesus told me was the real reason why He chose to be born as God on earth. I had intended never to mention this again. But last Sunday morning, as our article about the failures of mainstream science went live, Father Richard Rohr of the Center for Action and Contemplation sent out an email in which he detailed how God had taken him on a journey of personal discovery that had led him far beyond the Roman Catholicism of His youth. And as we were reading about Father Rohr’s journey of discovery, Thomas said to me, “Now we will tell Jesus’s story of His own voyage of discovery. He undertook His journey not for Himself, but because He wanted to free mankind. That is why He told you His story. Now He wants His true story to be known in place of the false Roman Christian story! His true story is what His website will be about.” Wow. But at least that makes sense. It never made sense that He would tell His story just to me!

So now Thomas and I will tell you all of what Jesus told me on the night of April 6th, when my dear Thomas took me to meet his eternal Friend in the astral plane. I have told some of that story from my own perspective, how overwhelmed and how star-struck I was to be unexpectedly meeting Jesus that way. For any who might be wondering, that was not a dream. It was a wide-awake experience. I saw each iridescent scale on the Lord’s pet fish and every blade of grass. I saw His face and His beautiful hazel eyes with almost unbearable clarity, but then I had to look away. It seemed to frustrate Him that I was so ill at ease in His presence. But I could not look upon the face of God.

This is in part also my Thomas’s story. I didn’t realize until my guide filled in for me some of the details of their lives together how close he and Jesus actually are! And for how long they have been so close. Of course, when the Lord’s telling of His story begins, neither of them had their present status….

Six or seven thousand years ago, in what we now call the fertile crescent, a fortress city paid its harvest tribute. The gates were opened, and the Chieftain sent out his sons with wagons full of new-cut grains. But instead of being received as tribute, those wagons were ambushed and the princes’ bodies were displayed on pikes by an army that attacked the city and murdered its inhabitants. And then the Celestial Council determined that one of those princes had achieved all grace. He was now to join the Godhead Collective that cares for humankind. And so the Being that we know as Jesus ascended to the level of the Godhead.

Jesus told me as we sat side by side on an astral riverbank and fed His fish with grain that simply appeared in our hands that He did not at first understand what had happened to Him. Communication in the astral plane is mostly by mind, and He was still in communication with His brothers. He could not understand why they were unable to follow Him. And the more the Celestial Council explained that His natural goodness and His constant kindness had fully earned Him that exalted place, the more upset He became. His brothers, whom He dearly loved, were no less worthy than He was! The brother that you and I know as Thomas was perhaps quieter and more within himself; and His other brother, the one that we know as the Apostle John, was perhaps not as kindly, true, but he was no less worthy! And what were all these rules? Who had made them? Why did nobody tell anyone what the rules were, so people could make a better effort to follow them?   

Jesus asked His brothers by mind to remain where they were until He could figure out what was going on. Thomas tells me that he dimly recalls that their requests to remain were a very big deal, and probably the first time that anyone had asked to be allowed to do anything out of order. But their requests were approved, because at the level of the Godhead Collective Jesus was making much bigger waves. He could not bear the thought that His being naturally more loving had given him an advantage that other people didn’t have. Basically, all heck was breaking loose.

With no guidance at all, in such a primitive world human advancement must have been slow indeed! Jesus told me as we sat together and idly fed His fish that the other members of the Godhead Collective were so melded that they couldn’t even comprehend His questions. They kept telling Him in a mental chorus that His brothers would be Perfected Beings soon enough! But Jesus’s vision had become so much bigger. It was even bigger than His other siblings, for His father of that lifetime had many wives. No, what about everyone else in that city? And all the slaves who had tilled the fields? And the traders who had roamed the earth? And since no one knew who had made those rules, why did we need to have rules at all?

You and I know that the “rules” that Jesus was trying to understand were the implacable laws of Consciousness physics. Although at the time, no one could have known that. And when even the Godhead Collective and the Celestial Council seemed to be unable to make sense of the reason for those rules, eventually Jesus decided that He had to live another lifetime on earth so He could study whatever it was that had made Him different from most other people, and figure out how to help not just His own brothers of His most recent lifetime, but also everyone else on the earth. Jesus wanted everyone to be able to achieve the place that He seemed to have achieved naturally. He felt driven to know precisely how this whole system worked! When He sat with me on that April night, He told me wryly that He had been naïve to think it would be easy for Him to break every rule and be allowed to do this. But life on the earth was so hard! And people had no idea why they were even there to begin with, so they made so little progress in each lifetime. There had to be a way to make whatever this process was at least somewhat easier for everyone.

The notion that Jesus might want to incarnate again as a Perfected Being into an entire lifetime from birth through death just so He could study people and give them tips for faster spiritual growth was unthinkable to the Celestial Council. Nothing like that had ever before been done! No one ever had chosen to incarnate on earth again from out of the Godhead Collective, and furthermore Jesus told me that His reason for wanting to do so seemed to be somehow unserious to them. And here you see the problem of conversing by thought, because that isn’t precisely the right word to use, and in trying to interpret the Lord’s thought that night I simply don’t know what the right word would be. But they couldn’t understand why He would care so much about helping the people who were still incarnating. He risked being disrespected by ignoramuses, and even being traumatized to the point where He might fall right out of His exalted status. I gathered, listening to the Lord’s thought-communications between the lines as it were, that the Celestial Council was finding Jesus to be a vast inconvenience, and they were at the same time fascinated and extraordinarily respectful. He was to them a new and exotic bird, a Being so excessively loving that He couldn’t bear to see anyone left behind, or even very much delayed. And as an Ascended Being, Jesus carried weight, perhaps much more than He realized at the time. When He quietly persisted, eventually He was able to negotiate an unprecedented lifetime lived in the area of Judea. He wanted to live in a place of settled cities near where He had lived His prior lifetime, but where war of any kind was unlikely.

There is no time in the astral plane, and in earth-terms a very long time had passed since those three brothers had died. I have reckoned the approximate time and place of their final earth-lifetime by what Thomas has told me about it. And he told me, too, that planning the earth-life of an Ascended Being turned out to be a considerable to-do! While he and John had the usual spirit guidance and guardian angel protection, Jesus had instead a whole new Council of His own for guidance in that lifetime, an array of Archangel invisibles to protect Him, and the Archangel Gabriel to go before Him and announce His impending birth to His future parents. And yes, Thomas says to me now, Jesus did indeed come to earth as the Son of God. He was born on earth from out of the Godhead! How else would you characterize His status?

Jesus told me that “the one you call John” had wanted to stay close to Jesus and became one of His Disciples, but “the one you call Thomas” had been willing to be among His crowd of followers, so he could listen and report on what people were saying. Having those two with Him who had been tight with Him through lifetimes was invaluable to Him.  

The reason why Jesus was born on earth is clearly stated in the Gospels themselves. And Jesus told me when I asked Him this question that, yes, He always knew during that lifetime who He was and why He was here, although He never shared that truth with anyone. And repeatedly He says in various ways in the Gospels things like, “I and the Father are one” (JN 10:30). He told me that He found the people to be so fearful of their idea of God that He taught them to refer to their God as their heavenly Father in order to soften that image. Even long before April, Thomas had been telling me that Jesus had come to teach, but first He wanted to “study the people through human eyes” so He could understand them well enough to know how best to teach them. Nothing about Jesus’s genuine story makes the Romans’ God’s-Son-sacrificed-to-God-so-God-would-forgive-us nonsense even begin to make any sense!

In fact, Jesus tells us right in the Gospels that God never judges anyone. He says, “For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son, so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father” (JN 5:22-23).

Oh yes, Jesus did indeed come to save us! He came to save us from floundering in lifetime after lifetime on earth without making much spiritual progress at all by giving us in the Gospels the key teachings that are necessary to help us make the most rapid possible spiritual progress. And in fact, the Gospel teachings of Jesus are the easiest and the most rapid method for achieving spiritual growth that ever has been devised.

Another point that Jesus made to me on April 6th was that His crucifixion and resurrection had been all His own idea. No matter how He phrased it, He could not convince the primitive people around Him that they were in fact eternal beings, so He wanted to give them a demonstration. He had experimented with reanimating dead animals’ bodies with temporary success in each instance, and He thought that He could do it with His own body as well, and could keep it alive for a few days at least. Then once His point had been made with that body that bore the marks of His crucifixion, He could discard His moribund body and use an astral body until He could make His more dignified exit. Of course, His personal Council didn’t like this idea either. But as we know, He did it anyway. And it worked! I especially enjoy the fact that scientists studying the Shroud of Turin tell us that the amount of energy required to produce the scorch on the Shroud could not be duplicated, even today.

And Jesus’s plan for His life as God on earth worked perfectly. He studied humankind for thirty years as a humble Jewish scholar who made His living as a carpenter, and then for a bit more than three years He was an itinerant preacher so wise and so charismatic that He gathered a considerable following. Then rather than simply disappearing, as had been the plan that He had made with His personal Council, He was crucified and rose from the dead, and in His astral body He made a show of being taken up into the astral plane. And for almost three hundred years after His death, His name and His teachings were rapidly spread far and wide by millions of eager devotees in a host of variations. Unfortunately, however, His nascent spiritual movement caught the attention of Rome, which saw in it the makings of a state religion that could become a weapon of complete control.

Jesus said not a word against Roman Christianity when I met with Him. And when I recently asked Thomas what the Lord’s attitude is toward the religion now, he said just, “Jesus is the most popular person in the world because of that religion, and He has been dead on earth for two thousand years.” But still, as some of the wisest and most thoughtful Christian scholars working today point out, Jesus is just a minor character in a religion that largely ignores the teachings that were the whole reason why He even took that extra lifetime! But to everything there is a season. And the Lord’s season has at last begun….

Let every kindred, every tribe on this terrestrial ball
To Him all majesty ascribe, and crown Him Lord of all!
Oh, that with yonder sacred throng we at His feet may fall!
We’ll join the everlasting song, and crown Him Lord of all!
– Edward Perronet (1726-1792), from “All Hail the Power of Jesus’s Name” (1779)

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38 thoughts on “His Story

  1. Thank you for this! I’m deconstructing from Christianity and I’m confused on what to believe. For example, what parts of the Bible are real and what parts aren’t.

    1. Oh my dear Jackie, the answer to that question is a bit like the answer that Bill Clinton gave when he said, “It depends on what you think the meaning of the word “is” is. What do you mean by “real”? I majored in Christian history in college and I have spent more than fifty years doing this research, and I’ve read the Bible through at least a dozen times, and I really can’t summarize what I know easily. There are many parts of the Bible that I really love! But my very short answer for our purposes would be that the four Gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John – can be trusted as we work with Jesus, except for some parts at the back of each Book that the Roman Councils added. If you will send me an email requesting it, I will send you a PDF of Liberating Jesus, which Jesus Himself has just reconfirmed contains most of what He wants to say.

      1. Thank you for the kind offer. I ordered two of your books from Amazon, one is Liberating Jesus, they’re supposed to be delivered tomorrow.

        By real I mean is Jesus really the son of God through an immaculate conception? Is Jesus really the only way to Heaven? Did the whole Adam & Eve story really happen? Did God really give us Ten Commandments? Was the Bible really inspired by God?

        You said the Gospels can be trusted, how do you know the Gospels weren’t manipulated by man?

        Thank you in advance and I hope you have a wonderful day.

        1. My dear Jackie, I don’t think there was an Immaculate Conception, nor was there any need for one. I didn’t ask Jesus that question, but the body is just a vehicle. It is the mind/spirit that matters! And no, of course Jesus is not the only way to advance spiritually. Whatever religion people follow, or even if they follow no religion, everyone goes to the same afterlife. There are parts of the Bible that are inspired by God, but most of it is of man. And amazingly, most of what is in the four Canonical Gospels Jesus has approved in Liberating Jesus as having been what He actually said.

  2. About the Bible, seems that this statement says it all:
    ” Nothing about Jesus’s genuine story makes the Romans’ God’s-Son-sacrificed-to-God-so-God-would-forgive-us nonsense even begin to make any sense! ”

    About what Christ told us, doesn’t His Golden Rule capture all we need to know? If you compare it to each of the Ten Commandments, it is foundational to 4 through 10.

    Religions over complicate their guidance for spiritual development as a mortal. In fact, where in any of the major religions is there any concept of the purpose of mortal life serving as a means for spiritual development that is not available from our stressless Heavenly existence?

    1. Oh my dear Jack, all of what you say is so true! I think the problem is that our religions are from a time when people didn’t know what we know about the primary role of Consciousness. (And indeed, of course, science is still clueless about the primary role of consciousness even today.) What is interesting to me as I think about it now is that Jesus seems to have figured it out during His thirty years of living and observing on earth. I mean, not precisely perhaps. But pretty well! From what He told me, He seems not to have understood the role of consciousness before He was born as Jesus, and yet He tells us in the Gospels that God is Spirit, right? and His teachings are quite neatly designed to raise our personal consciousness vibrations. Pretty clever, indeed!

  3. Dear Roberta,
    Each Sunday, I look eagerly forward to a continuation of the
    “newsflashes” Thomas and Jesus give you! I especially have been waiting for each Sunday since April 6th! There is so much you are sharing that aligns with childhood beliefs of mine, and probably beliefs of others. As a child, I spoke to those unseen as if they were here with me and was called a liar, and treated like a problem. Yet now, siblings beg me to recall everyone.
    As a fellow Catholic (at this time former), you probably recall the litany of prayers at Easter time, in which we prayed for “the Jews” who “killed” Jesus. I was never comfortable with that. I would feel such empathy and compassion and a sense of wrong judgement toward them, as a child. In later years, I never connected with the “sacrifice” of God’s Son as his purpose. I saw the Romans as the perpetrators of the crime. Present time, I get irritated that Latin is still being used like it’s the pinnacle of intelligence and sanctity.
    I DO believe in what Thomas and Jesus are telling you. I DO believe all your experiences are true and possible. Mystics have shared the same for hundreds of years. I also believe there are many of us who volunteered to come back at this time, to help breakthrough the old structures and institutions that have held Jesus “captive” for 2000 years. And you’re one of them, and so am I, and many who subscribe to your site and other sites of “followers of The Way/The Master”.
    I just wish that higher information could come more quickly and easily, and not in little bites, though it’s been explained by Thomas and others that it has to be done this way, because we are unable to assimilate it all at once. I get angry with myself for that-for being “dumb”, lol! But I get angrier with myself for side stepping, being fearful of what others may think or say (particularly family), and still a bit fearful of church teachings.
    I am grateful to you for being brave, and kind in allowing your journey to be shared, so people like me will benefit.

    1. Oh my dear Fran, you have no idea how I have swallowed hard sometimes, and argued with Thomas sometimes about writing some of this! You can’t be serious! I can’t say that! But he has been exceedingly patient. I think the hardest part of all for me has been giving up on Roman Christianity. Or no, I think it has been giving up on the physical God with the beard on the throne and thunderbolts. Both of those together. I was a very hardline traditional Christian. And I will be absolutely frank: I LOVED actually meeting Jesus, for real! OMG, and even being near Him. He has this enormously sweet and powerful energy you can feel, like silk, and Thomas says He can regulate it and it was toned down a lot for me. For days afterward, I would just think of it and I could feel it again. And He has pet fish, for heaven’s sake? Is that symbolic? Whenever He greets newly-dead Christians, He turns into church-Jesus, but otherwise He looks entirely different? My dear Fran, my life is getting stranger by the minute!

  4. Roberta,
    I so look forward to reading your profound experiences every Sunday morning (whereby I use to rush to Mass every Sunday morning).
    My sincere gratitude for all you do!

    1. Likewise Susan. After 40 years of often daily attendance at Mass (I even almost became a nun), I now look forward to Roberta’s posts on a Sunday morning – better than any sermon – and the joyful energy of Sandra Champlain’s Sunday Gathering in the evening. Then there is the added bonus of the Seek Reality podcast on a Tuesday

      1. Oh my dear Lisa, I thought I had already said this to you, but I can’t find it so I will say it now. As soon as I saw your comment, I copied it out and sent it to our wonderful friend Sandra, who loved it! I hope you don’t mind, but she was delighted to find that you are enjoying both of our offerings as part of your Sunday ritual. 🙂

    2. Oh dear Susan, you have made me smile! My husband no longer rushes to Mass on Sundays either, which surprises me; but instead, on many Sundays He simply watches it on television. 🙂

    1. Dear Michael, God is Lord indeed! But of course if your view of God is archaic and limited, then it may be time to sadly inform you that the guy created in man’s image with the beard painted on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel simply does not exist. As Jesus tells us in the Gospels, God is Spirit. As St. Paul tells us in Acts, it is God in which we live and move and have our being. In fact, we now know that God is the base creative force, which we experience in a dim way as consciousness. In fact, God is all that exists. God is in each of us, and as the God in each of us matures spiritually, it finds its culmination in the Godhead which is creating this universe in each moment. And Jesus is at the head of the Godhead. At least in simple terms, that is our best current understanding.

  5. Dear Roberta,

    Thank you for sharing this. This is helpful to me.

    I recently started working again and I have a new cubicle-mate. We are both in our 60’s, so we have both seen a lot. My new friend is a devout Fundamentalist Christian, so he made that fact known right away. He has come across many people with differing beliefs and is tolerant, believing in Free Will. I once believed as he does and so I know all about his beliefs. To him, I’m sure that I would be in the “going to Hell” category, except I explained how I was “saved” as a young man. He believes in “once saved, always saved”, so he tolerates me and my beliefs that we all return to the Spirit World and that God didn’t require that His Son to be brutally murdered to forgive me of my sins.

    I have really been pondering the role of Jesus and have a brand new red letter ESV New Testament to read His words. I also have your Liberating Jesus book.

    I now know to be looking for clues/directions that Jesus gave us, as he lived (again), to help us to progress spiritually before this incarnation is over.

    Thanks, again. With love,

    David D.

    1. Thank you, dear David! And actually, I was saved a couple of times when I was trying to reject Catholicism and become a Protestant again and a fundamentalist to boot. I guess the first time didn’t take. But in the end, of course, my dear Thomas pulled me out of all of that. He has been so patient with me. And I have been such a trial for him!

      1. Dear Roberta,

        I have read this blog post and the Alleluia blog post over and over.

        I so dearly desire to follow the true teachings of Jesus that were given to show us the most direct path to ascension. It is so frustrating that many of the words of Jesus in the 4 gospels are obviously adulterated or were broken up to avoid understanding by the Temple Guards.

        What are the principles of The Way? Is it mostly to love and forgive as God-like as possible?

        I hope we can teach each other as the Spirit enlightens us. My desire is to proclaim his message to others who will listen. But first, I need to clearly understand it.

        Maybe that is part of the purpose of the other web site that you will be developing?

        In the meantime, I will read his words and pick out what the Spirit testifies as true.

        David D.

        1. Oh my dear beloved David, I am trying to better understand the whole purpose of Jesus’s website myself! Thomas always has me on a need-to-know basis. He won’t tell me everything until the very last minute, just as he didn’t tell me that I would be channeling Jesus for Liberating Jesus before it actually started to happen. So I can’t tell you much about Jesus’s website. I just know that the website is in fact Jesus’s own idea, so He will be behind it and deciding what goes into it. So I assume it will be good!

  6. Dear Roberta. Thank you for telling us the rest of that amazing experience. I don’t recall your mentioning the Celestial Council before, let alone Jesus’ special new council (all archangels?) That is fascinating. Is there anything more you can add about them? Also, I was amazed that what we are calling the Godhead Collective did not understand or know much about the laws of Consciousness physics. Are they fish, albeit more advanced than the rest of us fish, trying to figure out what the water they swim in is, as in Jack’s clever metaphor? Have they only just been figuring that out recently? That could explain a lot of things about human history! If these laws did not come from the “Godhead,” I wonder where they did come from.

    1. My dear Scott, I was confused about all of that as well. And the more I’ve thought about it, the more I’ve come to realize a few things:

      * Our Godhead is certainly not the top, nor is our universe. There are hints that people who achieve the developmental level of our Godhead can choose to continue to grow spiritually – and Mikey says that – and now I think it must be true. I think we are at the base of something very much greater!

      * I think the Beings that Jesus was dealing with when He first ascended really didn’t know much about what underlies it all, which amazes me. They could read vibrations, but they didn’t know what any of it meant. They were like Jack’s classic fish in water. I also think, closely reading the Gospels, that Jesus actually seems to have figured a lot of it out on His own pretty much during that lifetime.

      * I’ve been bugging Thomas a lot about this, and he has (reluctantly) told me more. When Jesus returned as Jesus, He and His brothers and His Council and others – He had a whole team – spent the next thousand to fifteen hundred earth-years taking care of all the people the Roman religion was damaging. Although it eased up after the Crusades and the Inquisition. And Thomas did some incarnating. He says that John did less. And he thinks that is why Jesus has grown so much spiritually, through all that love and care. He has welcomed everyone the religion has damaged and personally tried to heal them all. Thomas tells me that he thinks Jesus may be Himself as powerful as the entire Godhead at this point.

      Honestly, I don’t understand it all. I do know, though, that I have never felt loved as I felt loved when I was sitting beside Jesus. I swear. He loves me personally and for who I am and with all my flaws. He knows me truly and loves me completely. And if you had been sitting there, you would have said the same thing. He loves each of the almost eight billion of us exactly that way. Each of us is precisely that precious. I never believed it before. I do now.

  7. Would you be willing to explain/ clarify/ condemn/ dismiss
    communion? At a church I have enjoyed locally, their pastor died recently. He was the main reason that church was so good, no rules, rites, just honest singing,praising and a goodly teaching or two. Now, a former Anglican-priest turned evangelical, or however you’d call it, suddenly added communion to the church’s service. I did NOT feel right with this and left. I would very much like to hear your response.

    1. My dear Sha’alah, communion is an area where my attitude has changed 180 degrees. It seems clear to me from the Biblical text itself that Jesus meant it as a convivial farewell dinner with close friends. He knew He was about to leave them. So, “Whenever you get together, raise a glass and think of me.” That sort of thing. When I was a Protestant child they did grape juice and cubes of Wonder bread once a month and treated it in that mode, and that was fine.

      As a Catholic, though, I had to deal with transubstantiation. And for a long time I tried to make it a loving thing. Almost the ultimate act of love? Jesus loves us so much that He lets us eat Him? But eventually, at about the time that I was getting past being able to bear the life-size, full-color plaster Jesus bleeding on the cross above the altar, I was also getting to the point where I couldn’t bear to eat Jesus either. It has been twenty years since I have done it. I understand just how you feel!

  8. Dear Roberta. It delights me every time you mention feeding Jesus’s fish. I have fed wild fish for decades. Bluegill at Smith Mountain Lake in VA love chicken skin.

    1. Well, my dear Ray, since people in the afterlife don’t have internal organs, I have assumed that was true in the astral plane as well, so the fact that animals – the grazing deer, the fish – seem to eat is confusing to me. Part of the fun of doing afterlife research is the fact that even after fifty years of it, there still is more to learn. The learning never stops!

  9. Dearest Roberta,
    What a fascinating journey Our Jesus has undertaken. No wonder those who heard Him speak, felt that He really knew about the Kingdom of God inside and out. If you were listening to Jesus speak, how could you not feel the depth of His authority? Perhaps the power of His own lived humanity, gained over many arduous lifetimes, had a ring of truth about it; a truth hard won by actual human experience. Surely, those who followed Jesus of Nazareth felt the deep connection of his lived humanity in addition to His authentic Divinity.

    What an experience being there must have been! Listening to Jesus must have been unlike anything else people had ever encountered. (I guess I enjoy trying to feel what it was like.)

    And Jesus’ ardent, unquenchable love for every human being, saw Him come back to Roman Judaea to endure so much negativity and suffering when He did not need to do so. He had so much love for us that He did whatever it took to bring every soul to the Light without exception. In truth, Jesus is doing so right now, for each and every one of us.

    A love like that is incomprehensibly big. It’s all about bringing everyone with Him and leaving no one behind. So, if we can even begin to love each other as Jesus loves us, we could deeply desire to give The Way to everyone, wherever and however it is possible to do so.

    To really get Oneness with God we need to give it to all. 💕🙏🏼🐟

    1. Oh my dear Efrem, you’ve hit it right on the head! Jesus’s lived experience at the time must have come through so deeply that they have to have felt it! You can feel it even today, as you are reading the Bible. Every time I would be reading it from cover to cover, I would hit Matthew, and it would be like suddenly going from some archaic point in history and finding a modern man. Utterly dramatic. And the love! Meeting Jesus today is overwhelming! He is nothing but love, after having spent the past two thousand years welcoming and rescuing and in many cases healing the victims of Roman Christianity. He radiates love like a furnace. You just want to be near Him and live in His love.

  10. Yesterday as I was answering questions here I realized something fascinating that Thomas won’t let me talk about in a blog post just yet but he says I can mention it here, among friends. I said to him, “When the three of you were Neolithic brothers, I’ll bet you were the oldest and John was the youngest. Jesus was in the middle.” Thomas said, “How could you know that?” But he admitted I was right!

    Simple. They still act like brothers in that same birth order, even in the Bible and even today. Fascinating. When John was a Disciple, he was “the one that Jesus loved.” He was always beside Jesus when they reclined at table, and he would lean back against Jesus’s chest to ask Him a question. You don’t get that kind of presumptuous familiarity except from a semi-bratty baby brother! And Jesus’s Disciples always knew that if they wanted something from Jesus, they were more likely to get it if they asked John to ask it of Him. John was the one Jesus asked from the cross to look after Mary, and not one of His brothers of that lifetime.

    Thomas, as the Lord’s ancient older brother, was the one who responsibly looked after Jesus by going out in that Biblical lifetime and paying attention to what the crowds were saying. And even though now Jesus vastly outranks Thomas, Jesus still oddly treats him as He might treat an older brother. I notice it even when they’re speaking together, that Jesus defers in His speech to Thomas. And He relies on Thomas for help and advice. I get by now that through our 17 lifetimes together I have mostly been what amounts to Thomas’s squire, his junior – always male – so when Jesus needed someone to channel Liberating Jesus, I was teed up. When Jesus wanted someone to do Seek Reality Online and get rid of the fear of death, it was Guess Who? again. And now Jesus wants His own website to tell His true story, so I am about to do that, too. Glad to help! But this dynamic among the three of them really fascinates me!

    1. Thank you so much for sharing!!!!🙏🏻That is so awesome! I was reflecting today on His (and all those in the Higher realms helping) enduring love in this “rescue mission”.
      I would like to share something my guides told me as I was writing after reading your blog and feeling sky high. I posed the question if they think us “weird” or childish being so interested in Jesus’ physical life. The first response was a question, “would you listen to someone who has no experience of your conditions?”
      Other points were that it’s a foundation in knowing Him; how else can we believe Him when He encourages us “..all these things I do, so also shall you do”; by opening our minds and hearts to this, we show willingness to move through layers of false doctrines.
      They also-I am seeing now-made the statement, “It is necessary” twice.
      It is such a joy to witness the “break throughs you share with us. In reading this latest if the brothers, I’m fairly giggling as I go to sleep.

      1. Oh my dear Fran, you make such a wonderful point! People need their people. And that is true, it turns out, even of Jesus. He has brothers that go back with Him to Neolithic times apparently, and perhaps even farther back than that. When I used to swoon over my Thomas’s Thomas Jefferson connection, he would say the equivalent of, “Kid, you don’t know the half of it!” I’ve never seen Jesus with John, but with Thomas that brother connection is as tight as if they were still boys together. Like when they were clowning in my back seat in Fall River, Massachusetts, trying to cheer me up, and I had to tell them to knock it off so I could drive. Amazing.

        At least a hundred thousand times I have said, “Why me?” At once Thomas has said, “Why not you?” He has shown me the first time we met, when we died together in a massacre of very early followers of the Lord’s Way. I was a boy and he was a chieftain, and that has been pretty much always our relationship. But people do need our people, and we set these relationships up, sometimes inadvertently, and they persist through endless generations of lifetimes.

  11. Dearest Roberta,
    I was raised in an atheistic family whose politics matched that, so I never brought up my feelings about Jesus. I did not cotton to Roman Catholicism, however, because I believed this teaching from my mother to wit “Catholics have too many children”. So, when I started to silently rebel, one manifestation of my rebellion was to start reading “National Review” in the University Library. Very quickly a realized that not only was the founder, Bill Buckley, a Roman Catholic, but he also had a great deal of wisdom to my 18-year-old mind. Later, I subscribed to the magazine to ensure a reliable source of them at home. To their credit, my parents never asked me to conduct a ceremonial burning.

    One fateful day I was reading an issue newly arrived in the mail and found that there was an article on what Jesus must have undergone during his crucifixion from a medical POV. I wish I could remember the author’s name, but all I can remember was that the author was female. She described the pain He underwent and also such medical problems as difficulty in breathing. His time on the cross was truly horrific as described.

    Yet, why did He have to undergo such terrible pain for hours? He was seemingly on a fact-finding mission, so wouldn’t hanging on the cross for a few minutes provided him with all the information needed in the pain category?

    It occurred to me that He did not desire/expect such a period of pain and so cried out “Eli, Eli,lemasabachthani?”, or enough, already. I wonder if expected his Council, to please shut off the pain. Could He have had an agreement with His Council for a short dose of pain, but the Council not having a firm grasp on Earth time gave Him a much longer dose inadvertently? Did you have any conversation about His time on the cross/

    Yours, Cookie

    1. Oh my dear Cookie, you’ve made me giggle! You went right from atheism to Bill Buckley. Wow, just the thought gives me vertigo!

      No, I didn’t ask Jesus about any of that. But I do know that His being crucified on Friday was crucial and He planned to spend a very short time on the cross. And yes, it’s hard to breathe while being crucified – they have to push up with their legs in order to breathe at all. Jesus wanted to be crucified on Friday early afternoon, and die before they went around and broke all the victims’ legs to finish them off and take the bodies down before the Sabbath. He was supposed to die almost right away, and that was what His cry was about – if He didn’t die before the soldiers broke His legs, His body would be useless for His reanimation and resurrection demonstration, which is what I think His cry to God was all about. “Hurry up and get me out of this body before the soldiers get here!” No, I didn’t ask Him about that. But my Thomas was later crucified too, and he told me a very weird story about that which I think I might have told here. Not sure. But he was crucified with a small group of Jesus’s followers of the early Way, and he claims they sang for two days before they died. I insisted to him that you can’t sing on a cross. You can barely breathe! He insisted they sang. They were high on Jesus. Good grief!

  12. Thanks for sharing this. it resonates so deeply with me. in the only experience I consider myself to have had with Jesus in this life he appeared like that: bold and challenging if not rebellious and motivated by love and respect for his brothers and sisters.

    1. Oh yes, my dear Lorie! He is so unbelievably powerful, but at the same time He is nothing but love. You have never met anyone in a material body with that combination of characteristics: so powerful, and at the same time so loving!

  13. Dear Roberta, does Jesus want those of us still in church to leave ?
    I am in a lovely, loving Protestant congregation which seeks to show the love of Jesus to our community. Does the Jesus that you know consider it wrong to stay in such a congregation ?

    1. My dear Jackie, I cannot imagine that the Jesus I know would want you to leave such a loving group of people! Indeed, I think He would bless the fact that you have found them. As my Thomas tells me, He doesn’t hold anything against Christianity at all – indeed, it is Christianity that has made His the most beloved name over all the earth. The religion just doesn’t teach His Way. It teaches lies and false dogmas, and apparently Jesus has decided that it is time now to correct that. But my dear, you are blessed that you have found a church that is already doing what the Lord is now about to do!

  14. Thank you for this, as I am overjoyed to know Jesus’s backstory! Jesus: The Prequel
    My question is that “God never judges”, but the Council does? I wonder what criteria they use, as this would be like judges deciding your placement, wouldn’t it?

    1. Oh my dear, insofar as we know there is no judgment by anyone but ourselves. What the Councils seem to do is to keep good order. For our own protection and spiritual well-being. When we want to apply to take one of the limited number of bodies that are available for incarnating on the earth or on another planet at any given time, for example, they choose the being most suited for each body, for example. They approve life plans when we want to take on very difficult life-plans to try to keep us from taking on such difficult lives that we will overwhelm ourselves. That sort of thing. When Jesus wanted to incarnate from out of the Godhead, which was an extraordinary idea, they didn’t forbid it, but they slowed Him down – they wouldn’t let Him do anything rash!

  15. Dear Roberta, when Seek Reality Online is running, will it be possible to ask questions of Jesus? So many people must have so many questions to ask. Maggie

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