Posted by Roberta Grimes • December 21, 2024 • 19 Comments
Jesus, The Source
Joy to the world, the Lord is come.
Let earth receive her king!
Let every heart prepare Him room,
And heaven and nature sing!
And heaven and nature sing!
And heaven and Heaven and nature sing!
Joy to the world, the Savior reigns.
Let men their songs employ.
While fields and floods, rocks hills and plains
Repeat the sounding joy!
Repeat the sounding joy!
Repeat, repeat the sounding joy!
– Isaac Watts (1674-1748), from “Joy to the World” (1719)
The first time Thomas took me to visit with Jesus in the astral plane and he allowed me to remember the event was in the spring. it was on the night of April 6, 2022, to be precise. But now I am coming to see that the perfect joy of that night is something that will always be in my mind most vividly at Christmastime, because the Jesus that I met that night was so much more like the gift that we celebrate at Christmas than He was like the gift that we imagine needing to celebrate at Easter. Those two versions of Jesus are two very different gifts! And it gives me no pleasure to point out the fact that two entirely different versions of Jesus even exist in our minds at all, since the one that most modern Christians know isn’t even the genuine Jesus at all, the glorious and perfectly loving Jesus that amazingly I met in person three years ago this coming Spring. And until very recently, I harbored the fear that only the Roman version of Jesus, the version that the Emperor Constantine created with his Christian religion, might be the one that in the end is going to survive in people’s minds.
Only think of that Roman Christian version of Jesus, and the God that Constantine dreamed up for Him to serve. Now, I could be wrong about this. I would love to be wrong, because even as I write it out it makes no sense to me now, and it never has made any sense at all, even though I was an ardent Christian for the first fifty years of my life. My goodness, I even have a degree in this subject from a prestigious college! But let’s simply reason it through here together. As I understand Christian doctrine, God created everything, and God has infinite powers. God also loves us infinitely. How am I doing so far? Okay, so but as I understand it, the one power that God lacks is the power to forgive us unassisted. No matter how much God loves us, and even though God insists that we all must learn to forgive, still we are so far below our ultra-perfect God that God can never forgive us for even our most basic human failings. Therefore, God had to send His own beloved Son to be horribly tortured and murdered as punishment for our sins in our place. It was only then that God could forgive us. Do I have this right?
My problem with all of this is that it makes no sense to me at all. If God is all-powerful, and if God insists that each of us must learn to forgive, then why can’t God also learn to forgive and just forgive us all outright, for heaven’s sake, without putting Jesus though all that trauma, and without putting us through so much guilt for Jesus’s suffering? For years after I stopped being a Catholic, I used to go to church with my husband, to support him in his faith and to keep him company. We often went to Saturday afternoon Mass, and then afterward we would have a nice dinner-date. But that life-size, full-color plaster Jesus bleeding on the cross over the altar in my husband’s church was so upsetting to me that sadly there at last came a time when I could no longer go to church with him at all.
But, okay, let’s assume for a moment that the Jesus-died-for-our-sins thing did have to happen. God is so far above us spiritually that He needs a pure Vessel to take all the whole world’s sins upon Himself so they can be punished once and for all, and then God can forgive us all. And that ultra-pure, sinless Vessel is Jesus. Okay. Hard for me to accept, but let’s assume that I am a spiritual dunce. So then it was done. Okay, fine. But so why then did Jesus also rise from the dead afterward, and why did He make such a big point of doing that as a display for His disciples? Jesus’s rising from the dead doesn’t seem to have been needed as part of the script that says that He died for our sins. Or does it? Am I still missing something? And nor does Jesus’s having spent more than three years lovingly teaching His disciples and His thousands of followers how to ever more perfectly love and forgive ever seem to have been needed as a part of the script of Jesus’s life before He became God’s pure and sinless sacrificial Lamb. If being that Lamb and taking all our sins upon Himself, and then suffering and dying in our place really was the purpose of Jesus’s life, then why did He teach us anything at all? Wasn’t Jesus needlessly risking a loss of His sinless purity with His side-excursions to argue with the clergy and to teach for three years before His crucial death on the cross at last occurred?
All of this really was the biggest reason why my conversation with Jesus on the night of April 6, 2022, was so extraordinary for me. Truly, I had spent most of my life until that night fighting the Roman Christian dogma that Jesus died for our sins! The entire idea that God had sent His Son to die as a sinless sacrifice to God always had been so repugnant to me. But, could Jesus have known that fact about me, in particular? Could it have mattered to Him that I was so upset by the Roman Christian dogma of substitutionary atonement? I wonder about that only now. I haven’t really thought about this detail until now because the fact that OMG Thomas took me to meet with Jesus Himself has for the past almost three years been my headline fact about that amazing night. But Thomas took me to meet with Jesus for a reason of the Lord’s own. And that reason was that Jesus wanted to share with me His actual purpose for being born on earth from out of the Godhead on that blessed night in Bethlehem two thousand years ago. He wanted me to share His actual purpose with you, and also to share it with all the world.
My dear ones, it is impossible for you to encounter Jesus and not to know right away who He is. No question! In the gigantic astral plane, we recognize one another by our unique energies, and Jesus’s personal energy is one high, pure note so intense that unless He remembers to tone it down for us, it actually is painful for you and me to be near Him. But the joy of being in Jesus’s presence is hard for me to adequately describe for you. Because all that He seems to care about is you! He looks at you with such joy, as if He has been waiting for you to appear for His entire life. He looks deeply into your eyes with the warmest smile, and He asks you about your day, what you have been doing, even what you are thinking. All that He cares about in that moment is you. It’s incredible. He loves you so overwhelmingly! I have given you in a blog post written just two months after that wonderful night Jesus’s story in abbreviated form as He told it to me then, so I won’t repeat much of it here; but I do urge you to read it at the link just above. His own version of His story makes perfect sense!
Jesus came to earth as an infant so He could spend a whole lifetime here studying us, to be sure that He could understand us well enough to teach us very well. And then for three years He taught us how to forgive and love perfectly, so we can each make this our last necessary earth-lifetime, and be done at last with reincarnation. His original life-plan that He had made with His personal Council was that eventually He would simply walk away and be subsumed back into the Godhead. But He had been unable to convince His followers that there is no death, so He chose to dismiss the protection of His invisible Archangels, and by His own choice He allowed Himself to be arrested, crucified, and entombed. He did that so He could two days later reanimate His corpse, and He then could rise from the dead and thereby prove to His followers and prove to us all that in fact there is no death. So Constantine’s whole substitutionary atonement notion is altogether wrong! Jesus’s crucifixion was just a demonstration, and it was all His own idea. He chose to be born on earth as our Teacher, our Elder Brother and Best Friend. And what Jesus came to save us from was spiritual ignorance! It really does all make sense!
Thomas and I are sharing with you here for reading, perhaps on Christmas Eve, the beloved tale of the birth two thousand years ago of the genuine Jesus, the eternally-living Christ. Jesus loves us so much that He devoted thousands of earth-years to persuading the Godhead Collective to grant Him His wish to be born on earth as our Spiritual Teacher of God’s greatest Truths so He could save us from our spiritual ignorance. And now Jesus remains with us forevermore. When you transition home, you also will personally meet Him; but for now, we all can together share His nativity story. Down through the ages, these words from the Gospels of Luke and Matthew still sing!
2 Now in those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus, that a census be taken of all the inhabited earth. 2 This was the first census taken while Quirinius was governor of Syria. 3 And everyone was on his way to register for the census, each to his own city. 4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, from the city of Nazareth, to Judea, to the city of David which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and family of David, 5 in order to register along with Mary, who was engaged to him, and was with child. 6 While they were there, the days were completed for her to give birth. 7 And she gave birth to her firstborn son; and she wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.
8 In the same region there were shepherds staying out in the fields and keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And an angel of the Lord suddenly stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them; and they were terribly frightened. 10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people; 11 for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. 12 This will be a sign for you: you will find a baby wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger.” 13 And suddenly there appeared with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying,
14 “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among men with whom He is pleased.”
15 When the angels had gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds began saying to one another, “Let us go straight to Bethlehem then, and see this thing that has happened which the Lord has made known to us.” 16 So they came in a hurry and found their way to Mary and Joseph, and the baby as He lay in the manger. 17 When they had seen this, they made widely known the statement which had been told them about this Child. 18 And all who heard it wondered at the things which were told them by the shepherds. 19 But Mary treasured all these things, pondering them in her heart. 20 The shepherds went back, glorifying and praising God for all that they had heard and seen, just as had been told them.
21 And when eight days had passed, before His circumcision, His name was then called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.
22 And when the days for their purification according to the law of Moses were completed, they brought Him up to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male that opens the womb shall be called holy to the Lord”), 24 and to offer a sacrifice according to what was said in the Law of the Lord, “A pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons.”
25 And there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon; and this man was righteous and devout, looking for the consolation of Israel; and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26 And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27 And he came in the Spirit into the temple; and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to carry out for Him the custom of the Law, 28 then he took Him into his arms, and blessed God, and said,
29 “Now Lord, You are releasing Your bond-servant to depart in peace,
According to Your word;
30 For my eyes have seen Your salvation,
31 Which You have prepared in the presence of all peoples,
32 A Light of revelation to the Gentiles,
And the glory of Your people Israel.”
33 And His father and mother were amazed at the things which were being said about Him. 34 And Simeon blessed them and said to Mary His mother, “Behold, this Child is appointed for the fall and rise of many in Israel, and for a sign to be opposed— 35 and a sword will pierce even your own soul—to the end that thoughts from many hearts may be revealed.” (LK 2:1-35)
2 Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, saying, 2 “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.” 3 When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. 4 Gathering together all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he inquired of the magi where the Messiah was to be born. 5 They said to him, “In Bethlehem of Judea; for this is what has been written by the prophet:
6 ‘And you, Bethlehem, land of Judah,
Are by no means least among the leaders of Judah;
For out of you shall come forth a Ruler
Who will shepherd My people Israel.’”
7 Then Herod secretly called the magi and determined from them the exact time the star appeared. 8 And he sent them to Bethlehem and said, “Go and search carefully for the Child; and when you have found Him, report to me, so that I too may come and worship Him.” 9 After hearing the king, they went their way; and the star, which they had seen in the east, went on before them until it came and stood over the place where the Child was. 10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced exceedingly with great joy. 11 After coming into the house they saw the Child with Mary His mother; and they fell to the ground and worshiped Him. Then, opening their treasures, they presented to Him gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. 12 And having been warned by God in a dream not to return to Herod, the magi left for their own country by another way.
13 Now when they had gone, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is going to search for the Child to destroy Him.”
14 So Joseph got up and took the Child and His mother while it was still night, and left for Egypt. 15 He remained there until the death of Herod. This was to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: “Out of Egypt I called My Son.”
16 Then when Herod saw that he had been tricked by the magi, he became very enraged, and sent and slew all the male children who were in Bethlehem and all its vicinity, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had determined from the magi. 17 Then what had been spoken through Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled:
18 “A voice was heard in Ramah,
Weeping and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children;
And she refused to be comforted,
Because they were no more.”
19 But when Herod died, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, and said, 20 “Get up, take the Child and His mother, and go into the land of Israel; for those who sought the Child’s life are dead.” 21 So Joseph got up, took the Child and His mother, and came into the land of Israel. 22 But when he heard that Archelaus was reigning over Judea in place of his father Herod, he was afraid to go there. Then after being warned by God in a dream, he left for the regions of Galilee, 23 and came and lived in a city called Nazareth. This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophets: “He shall be called a Nazarene.” (MT 2:1-23)
… And so it was very well begun! My dearly beloved friends, may the genuine Jesus, who is pure love and grace, fill your heart now and forevermore. Merry Christmas!
He rules the world with truth and grace,
And makes the nations prove
The glories of His righteousness
And wonders of His love!
And wonders of His love!
And wonders, and wonders of His love!
– Isaac Watts (1674-1748), from “Joy to the World” (1719)
(Many photos are from Vecteezy.com)
Thank you Roberta!
You inspire me to search within myself for my own truth. I struggle with and I’m searching for the true and resonating definition of “love”,one that is realistic to me.
I grew up not using the word very much. I’ve been on an awakening for the last several years trying to find my own purpose of my journey. I struggle with self love. I’m 67 years old and am trying to put my priorities in order. I feel the need to leave most of my assets to a deserving charity I feel the need to give back to humanity. Since my struggles in life where I feel less then the current souls today that are fleeing from war and killing.
Any thoughts of an important charity that you feel worthy?
Thank you Roberta
Looking forward to your response
Peace and Joy to you this holiday!!
Oh my dear beautiful James, I have answered your question privately, and I think that with you, as they do with me, Mercy Ships and Samaritan’s Purse and such charities seem to resonate most profoundly. I would urge everyone, of course, to check first into how each charity spends its contributions, to make sure that as little money as possible goes to fundraising.
This was lovely! Merry Christmas Roberta and family! I loved reading about the birth of Jesus again. It makes Christmas come alive.
God Bless you and your work
Oh my wonderful, beautiful Jennifer, thank you so much! And a very Merry Christmas and many blessings to you as well, my very dear one!!
I just want to understand.
Please explain to me why, if Jesus is God, he has to “spend a whole lifetime here studying us, to be sure that He could understand us well enough”.
Thank you Roberta!!
Chris
Dear Chris,
I don’t think Roberta means to imply God doesn’t know us; maybe it’s kind of like a parent who tries different ways to teach their children? What’s the best way, etc. I wonder if free will comes into play too-God would know all the possible choices we’d make but which one will we choose? I get your question and I sometimes ask it when things happen that I find so hard and hurtful -a young cousin of mine, recovering from spinal surgery, fell of her bed and broke a vertebrae which severed an artery; they couldn’t save her. I’ve been “off” any Jesus and spiritual talk for a bit because of my anger and sadness. But I’m glad I ventured in. It’s hard for us because we’ve been raised to believe the Roman version of Jesus. But the kool aid is kind of tasting bad these last decades. It’s enough for me to know he cared enough to come and try to get to know mankind better so that the unraveling of lies can begin at some point. He’s waited long enough. Maybe God does know me cause He’s God…but it’s nice He wants to ask me my opinions and thoughts anyway.
Dear Fran. I’m sorry for the anger and sadness you felt/feel from the transition of your cousin. They say that’s a healthy part of grieving. I’m sure it doesn’t help that it resulted from such a bizarre sequence of events; in the hospital.
Oh my very dear and much-beloved Fran, I am so sorry! Sometimes life can be so very hard. At least you know, my very dear one, that your cousin is safe now and eternally, and you will see and hug her again for certain. But, oh my beloved, these things that happen can just break our hearts!!
My very dear Chris, I wondered about this as well, and I asked my very beloved guide Thomas about it. He told me that very elevated Beings who have not been in contact with the earth for a long time, as Jesus had not been in contact with the earth for a very long time – thousands of years – when He was born on earth out of the Godhead, really have lost touch altogether with how it feels to be steeped in the earth’s negativity. They really cannot remember anymore, or even imagine after a time, what that is like. So to make certain that His teachings would be right for us, Jesus felt that He needed that time back among us, that refresher course.
Dear Roberta. Merry Christmas! There really is no knowing like that gained through direct experience. Jesus “walked a mile in our shoes “.
I enjoyed the contrast between the portrayal of the God that requires atonement in order to forgive and the God that Jesus introduced us to.
Oh my dear Ray, yes indeed, I love that difference as well! The genuine God loves us as a true, wise and wonderful Daddy loves us, so beautifully and oh so completely!!
My dear Chris, I wondered about this too. My Thomas, my spirit guide, told me that most upper-level beings who have been a long time away from life in a human body, and Jesus of course had been more than a thousand years away from the earth and had been living all that time as part of the love-based Godhead Collective when He was born on earth again as Jesus, they really don’t remember the harsh and negative conditions of life on earth. Jesus was quite concerned when He came back about being able to tailor His teachings on love and forgiveness to be able to perfectly suit us, since after all, teaching us well was the whole point in His mind of His returning as Jesus.
Once we really come to understand that Earth is not our real home, but inky a learning school classroom, it becomes so much easier not to be angry when someone passes and goes back to his or her real home, where things are so much nicer, loving, beautiful, embracing, joyful, etc., anyways.
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Yes indeed, my so inexpressibly dear Adrian!!
Dearest Roberta and everyone,
Merry Christmas! Or as the French say so beautifully “Joyeux Noel”. We can indeed feel the joy of Jesus’ birth. Heck, His earth life was for each and every one of us!
And what this blog post maintains is correct, I feel. Why did Our Jesus spend so much time and effort teaching us? His actions during His earth life teach us profoundly, just as His own words do. If His purpose was simply to be sacrificed, Jesus didn’t need to show us how to; love perfectly, live in daily gratitude and forgive completely. Jesus didn’t need to give us His two commandments; to love God and to love human beings.
So He really came to dissolve human ignorance so we could come home to God and live eternally in grace.
Hence, there is so much to celebrate especially on Christmas. And thank you Roberta for sharing the NT account of Jesus birth and early life. It brings us closer to Him on the inside should we read it and reflect deeply.
We can read His words in the Gospels at anytime and draw ever closer in an inner, personal relationship with Jesus.
What could be more important and wonderful than that? ❣️🙏🏼🕊️
Oh my so beautiful Efrem, this is so very wonderfully said! Thank you, my very dear one!!
I didn’t know only you and sophisticated people were worthy of Jesus.
The Jesus I know and love incarnated for the poor and lowly people like me and shunned the Pharisees and Scribes, the sophisticated of the time.
My very dear Michael, I have read your comment repeatedly, and have gone back and read my post again, and I apologize, but I cannot find anywhere that I have said that only sophisticated people were worthy of Jesus? Perhaps you might point my offending phrase out to me? In fact, it was BECAUSE Jesus had spent so many centuries, and actually millennia among very advanced Beings before He was born as Jesus that He was so concerned about needing to spend a whole youthful lifetime living among the common people among whom He was born and learning to relate to them well before He began to teach. He wanted to be able to “look through human eyes” and relate to the poorest, and the least educated. There is even considerable evidence that Jesus was born a slave and freed at the age of 30. Whatever was the lowest in society that He could be, that was what He wanted to be.