Knowing God

Posted by Roberta Grimes • December 09, 2023 • 22 Comments
Jesus, The Source, The Teachings of Jesus

My sweet Lord, Mm, my Lord, Mm, my Lord,
I really want to see you. Really want to be with you.
Really want to see you, Lord, but it takes so long, my Lord.
My sweet Lord. Mm, my Lord. Mm, my Lord.
I really want to know you. Really want to go with you.
Really want to show you, Lord, that it won’t take long, my Lord.
My sweet Lord (Hallelujah!) Mm, my Lord (Hallelujah!) My sweet Lord (Hallelujah!)
Really wanna see you! Really wanna see you! Really wanna see you, Lord!
Really wanna see you, Lord, but it takes so long, my Lord.
My sweet Lord (Hallelujah!) Mm, my Lord (Hallelujah!) My, my, my Lord (Hallelujah!)
I really wanna know you (Hallelujah!) Really wanna go with you (Hallelujah!)
Really wanna show you, Lord, that it won’t take long, my Lord (Hallelujah!)
George Harrison (1943-2001), from “My Sweet Lord” (1970)

Beginning to find God scientifically, as we have been doing over the past two weeks, can be just the start of really coming to intimately know the genuine God. But the monstrous and distancing notions of God that our religions have been putting into our minds ever since long prehistory have made our being able to think clearly about God so hard! All our versions of gods down through the ages have been created by us in our own image as just bigger, sterner, and much more powerful versions of human beings. And our relationship with even what we thought of as the Creator God of Roman Christianity was always based on a primitive fear of a bearded, human-like and highly judgmental Deity that was loving, yes, but also quick to show anger, and was willing to throw us into a fiery hell for what seemed to be trivial crimes.  Even the fact that all our versions of gods have been housed in fear-based religions has made most of us tend to see God as just an abstraction and not as anything real, as if once we do away with religions, then God also likely will disappear.

But God is real, and God is independent of whatever religion-created view of God might have been planted in our minds. That fact should be obvious to us, but somehow it feels like a stunning realization! One of the things that Jesus came to do two thousand years ago was to teach us that God is indeed real. And in so doing, He wanted to move us past our old ways of relating to our human-created gods, and teach us to relate to the genuine God only privately, without religions in the way. This was why He taught us to call God “Father,” an intimate and loving name. And He said, “When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.  But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you” (MT 6:5-6). Jesus had little use for clergymen. And furthermore, it is clear from the Gospels that He actively despised religious rituals and traditions. The more you read the Biblical Gospels, the more you get the sense that Jesus was trying to get rid of religions altogether so we could begin to relate to God without any remnant of any religion in the way.

So, what we are talking about doing now is developing a much deeper individual relationship with the genuine God. And the first step is to do what Jesus attempted to do for us, which was to remove from our minds the last religion-generated remnants of what God is not. God is not a fear-based and judgmental human-like idol. Instead, “God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth” (JN 4:24). And Jesus then replaced all those old fear-based ideas about God with one new and all-encompassing commandment. “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another” (JN 13:34). And not only should we love one another, but we must especially love God, who loves us and who is so eminently worthy of our love! “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the great and foremost commandment.  The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets” (MT 22:37-40). And Jesus made it perfectly plain that in replacing all the old, much harsher religious rules of what we now call the Old Testament, even including the Ten Commandments, He was fulfilling God’s loving plan for us. He said, “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill (MT 5:17).

What Jesus could not do, though, two thousand years ago, was to prove to us the existence of God scientifically. Back then there was no science to speak of! No, as we began to see in our last two weeks of posts, we had to come forward in human history by almost another two millennia, to a much more arrogant time in human terms, for people first even to begin to imagine that they could get to the point where they could scientifically explain everything, and thereby they thought that they could avoid the need to even posit the existence of a Creator God. When this peak confidence on the part of scientists was still in full swing, but it was first becoming apparent that science might not necessarily be able to explain precisely everything, which was around the turn of the twentieth century, theologians began to play with a “God of the gaps” idea, which gave a Creator God a real but steadily shrinking role. God still provided an explanation for the things that materialist science still had not yet figured out.

Nowadays, however, the joke is more and more on the materialist scientists! As trained scientists with a Christian bent find ever better funding, they are demonstrating not only the areas where mainstream science never has yet succeeded, and it likely never can succeed; but also, they are discovering that even what once had seemed to be some successful scientific theories and assumptions may not be the most workable explanations for even the most basic phenomena. Here are four core insoluble scientific problems:

  • The Origin of Matter. As we learned two weeks ago, the Big Bang is no explanation at all for where matter may have come from, since it does nothing more than to set an arbitrary starting point. It doesn’t explain the why or the how, and we always can ask what existed before whatever starting point the scientists might arbitrarily choose. In point of fact, their Big Bang idea explains nothing.
  • The Origin of Life. As we learned last week, the most intractable set of problems for materialist scientists is where life came from, how life got started, and what life even is. If the university science departments and the peer-reviewed journals had not weirdly set their system up a century ago as a battle to the death against God, literally, they could have given it up a long time ago. But how they can end it now, only God knows!
  • Random Evolution’s Evident Inadequacy. Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution requires that natural selection must not be driven by a Creator’s guiding hand, so it depends upon an endless series of random mutations. It does seem, though, that other theories, including that of Jean-Baptiste Lamarck that heredity can be influenced by life experiences, may also be right. And mutations occur in nature too infrequently and much too randomly to explain what the fossil record indicates actually happens. What we see instead is a whole lot of what is now being called punctuated equilibrium. Repeatedly, new species appear in the fossil record with little or no discernible evolutionary history, and they remain stable, often for millennia, before being replaced by new and quite different species virtually overnight. Any honest scientist would at this point have to say that the fossil evidence for an intelligent Creator is overwhelming.
  • Evident Design. The God of the gaps still fills a great many gaps! For one thing, there are far too many parts of material bodies, from eyes and ears right down to the manifold wonders of each living cell, which cannot be explained by evolutionary theory because without all their pieces already assembled and in place, they cannot usefully perform their functions. Which means that all those pieces never would have gradually assembled in the first place if random evolutionary theory were correct.

Taken together, these four points by themselves are proof delivered by the materialist scientific community itself of the obvious existence of a Creator God. Mainstream scientists gave scientific materialism their very best shot for a century, and we certainly ought to acknowledge that fact! At the start of the twentieth century, shortly before Max Planck won the 1918 Nobel Prize in Physics as the father of quantum mechanics, Dr. Planck realized that at the base of all reality is actually non-material consciousness. He came to call it Mind. He understood that he had found the Creator God, and the materialist scientists took these ideas voiced by one of their own as a direct challenge. They established their “fundamental scientific dogma of materialism” to turn the whole scientific community into an atheistic army, and they set out then to prove the estimable Dr. Planck to be entirely wrong.

The worldwide lay community as a whole does not realize that for the past hundred years it has been witnessing a battle royal, but a battle is what has in fact been going on. And until well into this new century, the materialists had the upper hand, because they controlled the money and they controlled the press. The one thing that they cannot control is the truth, and in the end the truth always was going to win. As scientists with a Christian mindset have found ever better funding, a few of the best have banded together and have devoted their careers to doing the independent research that was going to be necessary in order for them to find and to publicize the truth. At this point, and with the healthy leveling of the playing field that the Internet provides, atheistic materialist science is in its waning days. Although they are not yet ready to admit this, the mainstream scientific community itself has conclusively proven that none of what they have been claiming are the best atheistic explanations for the reality that we see around us are in fact atheistic explanations at all. But rather, the irrefutable evidence for the existence of a Creator God that the materialist scientists themselves have produced can no longer be denied. 

And Jesus knew and told His disciples that this day would come! Shortly before He went to the cross, Jesus said to them,

“Whenever a woman is in labor she has pain, because her hour has come; but when she gives birth to the child, she no longer remembers the anguish because of the joy that a child has been born into the world. 22 Therefore you too have grief now; but I will see you again, and your heart will rejoice, and no one is going to take your joy away from you.

23 “And on that day you will not question Me about anything. Truly, truly I say to you, if you ask the Father for anything in My name, He will give it to you. 24 Until now you have asked for nothing in My name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be made full.

25 “These things I have spoken to you in figures of speech; an hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figures of speech, but will tell you plainly about the Father. 26 On that day you will ask in My name, and I am not saying to you that I will request of the Father on your behalf; 27 for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I came forth from the Father. 28 I came forth from the Father and have come into the world; again, I am leaving the world and going to the Father.”

29 His disciples said, “See, now You are speaking plainly and are not using any figure of speech. 30 Now we know that You know all things, and that You have no need for anyone to question You; this is why we believe that You came forth from God.” 31 Jesus replied to them, “Do you now believe? 32 Behold, an hour is coming, and has already come, for you to be scattered, each to his own home, and to leave Me alone; and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with Me. 33 These things I have spoken to you so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world” (JN 16:22-33).

And my dear ones, so Jesus has indeed overcome the world! It is impossible for us to read these words that He spoke two thousand years ago, even though He spoke them in Aramaic and He spoke simply to very simple people, and not have the feeling that He was speaking to us with a clear understanding of the vastly different world that we would be confronting today. Jesus spent four thousand earth-years after his last fully human lifetime seeking to ever better understand the lush and overwhelmingly perfect love of God for imperfect humankind so He could come back to us, now from out of the Godhead, and teach us how we, too, have overcome the world. His love for us is perhaps as great as God’s love, if that is possible.

Know Jesus, and you will know God in truth! Your heart will swell to bursting if at last you can begin to understand that the God of all really does love imperfect You so much, because so it was also for me when I first understood what I am saying to you now. As hard as this may be to believe, you in particular are God’s best-beloved child, and you are treasured by God more than you can imagine.

So you know now that you fully possess God’s whole creation. You can truly trust it now! Every tiniest bit of what exists, God made for you in the fullness of God’s perfect eternal love for you. So, live in it! And truly own it! Know now, beyond all possible doubt, that none of this is random. And it isn’t even so much that, as we have conclusively demonstrated, the evidence for an intelligent Designer is everywhere. But the need for ongoing maintenance for so many of this Creation’s systems is such that without God’s continuous care in every instant, it would all long since have fallen apart. And every beautiful thing in this universe is yours to enjoy in the perfect splendor of God’s love.

So if you ever again have the slightest doubt of the Creator God’s existence, simply follow and read all the links in this week’s post and in the previous two weeks’ posts. Then go and have a long look in the mirror. Without a Creator God’s first designing and then continuously moment-by-moment maintaining the existence of this entire greater reality, including the universe and right down to all the cells and mechanisms in your own body, none of this could be here at all! Our whole mainstream scientific community has satisfactorily proven the existence of God, quite in spite of itself. Now the onus is on all the smug atheists to prove how any of this could continue to exist without the intelligent design and the ongoing close maintenance of a loving Creator God. Dr. Dawkins? Your move, Sir….

Roberta Grimes
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22 thoughts on “Knowing God

  1. Dear Roberta, When the ancient perspective is clearly stated, ” … based on a primitive fear of a bearded, human-like and highly judgmental Deity that was loving, yes, but also quick to show anger, and was willing to throw us into a fiery hell for what seemed to be trivial crimes. ” doesn’t jump out at our face that such a concept is beyond ridiculous.

    In truth, all that exists, the only thing that exists, is God; God creates whatever He creates by Himself, from his own being. Our eternal spirits are created by God. Our mortal bodies and the world they live in are created by God. And the logic of these insights may not even be tested by the scientific method–which is valuable for engineering technologies based of the principles ans “laws” theorized and tested by observation following the rules of science.

    At the center of the scientific method is theory guided observation of phenomenon. To conduct a valid observation, an independent observer must be placed external to the object or phenomenon to be observed, but no human can ever place himself outside of our physuical world to physically observe it, its history, its current being, or its future. Likewise, no human can place himself in any position to observe God–and that idea is itself obviously ridiculous. So, the observational method, at the heart of modern science cannot be applied to any ontological matters, and the epistomology concerning God and the world in which we exist is fundamentally disabled:

    ” Epistemology and ontology are both branches of philosophy. Often, they ask related questions: ontology asks what exists, and epistemology asks how we can know about the existence of such a thing. ”

    God is in us, and we are in God; our soul and its spirit know this; however while the soul is strapped to the mortal body, such knowledge is usually blocked. During deep meditation or Out of Body Experiences, the soul/spirit is able to see its true nature and how the world is truly the creation of God.

    Why has God created the spiritual world of Heaven, the material world in which our mortal bodies are born, live, and die, and all of the creatures, such as angels and humans and other animals (and likely many aliens who appear to be visiting us seen as flying saucers, metalic cigars, tic tacs, UFOs, and UAPs). My speculation is that God is eternally exploring His possibilities of creation, and enjoys the company of the spirits He creates with their free will to love, or stupidly hate.

    1. Oh my dear Jack, this is so beautiful! And in the way that you frame it, so utterly sensible! When I spread out the scientific evidence for God on my desk, no kidding, all of it is so flat-out obvious that it makes the atheists look like childish idiots. I basically just want just want to bang my head against the wall in frustration, since we are playing by rules of evidence and they are still acting like two-year-olds.

  2. Dear Roberta,
    I believe in God.
    At first, I sought out Good. Because it felt better.
    I looked at all faiths, but responded to Jesus
    because He was interested in me.
    Today , I am dropping all my limitations as fast
    I can. Jesus loves me as I am. That makes all the difference.

  3. Thanks, Roberta for all the insights. Is it reasonable to conclude that physical bodies evolve while the soul, spirit, or whatever you call the part of of man whose existence is eternal was created by God? Hope that is not an oversimplification.

    1. Darling Thomas, I think that God actually does all of it, but does the material part with some quick bridge versions stuck in there so we get what looks to us something like evolution. That’s why we end up with punctuated equilibrium, all those long periods of stasis and then a quick switch to a new species and then more equilibrium. What else might account for that? The word “lazy” could never apply to God, but the term “trying to let the atheists down more gently” might be a better way to put it.

  4. Dear thomas, as Roberta mentioned, while God creates each species, they may adapt or evolve over time both genetically and epigenetically according to changes in their environment, but of course each material body dies away (although I have published a paper explaining that the body’s consciousness, which is separate from its attached eternal soul, may linger as a ghost).

    The eternal soul that had been attached for living detaches at death and returns to Heaven as spirit, only with learning achieved by the life it just lived.

    1. Dear Jack, I love the way you have been thinking through all of this as a scientist, and even publishing papers on all these subjects! I never have. I’ve been too busy thinking and rethinking ever to write any of it down!

  5. Awesome post Roberta!

    This description of God just feels right. I could never reconcile the eternal damnation version. Maybe it was my soul guides helping me push away from the church at a young age.

    That brings up something I’ve been thinking about for some time.

    Our world is changing quickly.

    As humans, we are easily persuaded/brainwashed.

    I imagine we were isolated enough from many things a long time ago which may have helped some from bad influences.

    Now, with the internet, those barriers are gone.

    Throw in how fast artificial intelligence is rapidly progressing and things seem to be changing at a even faster rate.

    I’ve read more and more kids are wanting to be internet famous as their career.

    And the things some people do to become famous can be bad for our vibrations.

    With all of that said, I often wonder how well our guides understand the workings of this material world in this age.

    Just to be clear, I appreciate the dedication and love from our guides. They are awesome. I know my guide is probably wishing he/she retired by now.

    As you said before, our life is preplanned.

    Do you think we have enough experience in today’s “world” to give our visits the best chance at being successful?

    Or is the current success rate pretty much the same as it was back in the older times?

    I was just wondering what everyone thought or if I am over thinking again. haha

    1. My dear Thomas, you raise some important points. What I hear from my Thomas is that beings who are not now in bodies – your primary guide and mine – really don’t understand the modern earth-world at all. And that surprises me, since I think of him as living right here in it with me every day! He is right here, right behind my left shoulder, always quick with his comments. But he says no. His world is with Jesus in the astral, and none of our guides get the rhythm of life on earth now. Their focus is on our internal, our emotional lives, and our spiritual growth. So as they are guiding us, they are always trying to help us to better develop our lives from that perspective; but if we get into some earth-level trouble, they may have difficulty in getting us out of it.

  6. Thomas, what is it that constitues having lived “successfully?” Life in Heaven is supremely blissful, including immersion in the loving light of God.

    Our material life, by contrast, is intentionally planned to be harsh, to various degrees. Just how very bad living becomes in life must logically follow from our educational needs for a given lifetime.

    1. Great question Jack,

      My idea of success would be achieving our goal of 5th level and not needing to return.

      I’m assuming that is our ultimate goal here.



    2. Oh my dear much-beloved Jack, such a wonderful question! The word “successfully” is so highly subjective, is it not? And so dependent on our short-term perspective. On the one hand, some might consider the most successful life to be the wealthiest life, while others might consider it to be the one where the most was spiritually gained. It is all in our point of view. But, yes, once we return home, from that perspective we soon realize that our life on earth had a purpose, and it was bigger than simply accumulating our first billion dollars!

  7. I should have said raising our vibration enough to reach 5th level. I believe we don’t need to return once we achieve that vibrational level.

    1. As Jesus said, my dear Thomas, the purpose of our lives on earth is to accumulate treasure in heaven. And that turns out to be much easier to do than you might think! When I quizzed my Thomas about the level that we’ve got to reach to be able to stop incarnating, he didn’t want to put a definitive number on it, but finally he agreed that it was level five.

  8. Jack, thanks for the reply. So when we say that man was created in the likeness and image of God, it refers to spirit only and has nothing to do with physical bodies.

    1. Dear Thomas, don’t you love the way Jack answers this question? He has thought through everything. Spirit is indeed not physical but is only Consciousness; but on the other hand, the Godhead does manifest as light, which is energy. I think the problem we have with understanding all of this is that we still don’t understand what Consciousness actually is, since fundamentally there is nothing else: Consciousness is all that exists.

  9. Thomas, A logical answer is a bit tricky. Because I believe that whatever exists is God or some form of God, then consciousness, spirit body, light and light body, and all contents of the material world are also forms of God, granted that God has created his creatures with free will, so that they are not any sort of dumb machines, but possess independence of will and potential behavior.

    I suppose that ancient biblical text, which was weak in the OT concerning
    immaterial consciousness (or spirit beings), must have meant humans are replicas of God’s physical form. Today, we recognize that our material, mortal existence is time bound and perishes, whereas our consciousness or spiritual being was constructed to be an eternal companion of God.

    Can we reasonably attribute to God, who is pure consciousness, any particular form, such as our mortal bodies have? God may take any form, but His having two arms, legs, eyes… as His preferred state does not seem likely.

    NDE reports say that God generally appears as a massive loving light being with no particular shape. I am inclined to think that this appearance of light is really only a chosen manifestation of God’s immaterial being. Buy, I am only guessing about guesses to respond to your good question.

  10. Thanks again, Jack, for your analysis. While the spirit of God is manifested in all things, it seems a stretch to say anything made in the image of God would have a finite life. I am interested in hearing Roberta’s thoughts on the subject.

  11. Thomas, there is a surprising wrinkle as between the mortal body (which livbes and dies) and its own consciousness–which is separate and distinct from its soul that is attached for the mortal life.I found three good cases in the NDE/OBE literature in which tyhe body continued to behave rationally when the soul detached and was a bystander, and surprised to see the body behaving on its own. Google to retieve this published paper, ” Evidence of the Body Possessing a Form of Consciousness Beyond Its Soul.”

    God may take the form of a human for purposes of holding a “comfortable” conversation with a huiman; and Jesus did of course spend a short life in a mortal body.

  12. I love this blog Roberta!

    To know that God loves us the way we are. As you know, I have left religion and I have a MUCH better understanding of Jesus, and God. You, Thomas and Jesus are a blessing.

    God did answer my prayers many years ago, when I left religion and wasn’t sure where to go or what to believe. I did ask him to show me the truth and he answered my prayers by leading me to you!

    I still feel bummed that today’s Christians still see Jesus as the sacrificial lamb that took on the sins of the world and if you don’t except him as Lord and Savior well too bad, you are going to hell! And, God is still a God who loves you, but you must FEAR him and LOVE him at the same time! None of this ever made sense too me.

    I still don’t understand how this makes sense to many Christians, especially now with NDE and many other phenomenon’s.

    I just want to ask a question before I end this blog. In the future would you be interested in breaking down the meaning of the Sermon on the Mount, the beatitudes?

    Some of it, I understand, but, some of the passages still have me questioning what Jesus meant 2000 years ago. It might be a good spiritual lessons for many.

    Either way, I am always looking forward to Sunday’s blog and the wonderful comments!

    1. My dear Litsa, actually, the Sermon on the Mount is always on our short list. We have written about it in the past, and we talk about writing about it again because people don’t go back and read old blog posts, but then something else will feel more pressing. Good suggestion, though!

      And yes, my dear one, for the most part, Christian religious beliefs are appalling nonsense, and it is horrifying to see our beloved Jesus embroiled in that! But fortunately, thanks to the work of many disembodied heroes influencing the minds of Nicaean councilors and others at just the right times, His teachings have for the most part been preserved for future, more enlightened ages that will treasure them.

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