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Posted by Roberta Grimes • December 31, 2022 • 34 Comments
Jesus, The Source, The Teachings of Jesus

(I come to the garden alone,
While the dew is still on the roses.
And the voice I hear, falling on my ear,
The Son of God discloses.
And He walks with me,
And He talks with me,
And He tells me I am His own.
And the joy we share as we tarry there
None other has ever known.
C Austin Miles (1868-1946), from “In the Garden” (1912)

Today we all make our hopeful plans for a new year that is just beginning. A bright new calendar! Three hundred and sixty-five empty squares just waiting to be filled. And thinking about those empty squares when I have spent months studying the teachings of Jesus makes me know what Jesus would tell us is the most important thing that each of us should be planning to do with all that brand-new time. Jesus says,Do not worry about your life, saying, ‘What are we to eat?’ or ‘What are we to drink?’ or ‘What are we to wear for clothing?’ For the Gentiles eagerly seek all these things; for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be provided to you” (MT 6:31-33). And it is time to take Jesus at His word. Before you fill in too many squares with lunch dates and shopping, with work trips and meetings and impromptu vacations and various courses, it is time to make some positive room in your life for the most important part of your life. It is time to make room in your life for God.

There was a time when we considered our Sunday mornings to be God’s time. Remember? And even if you are still attending church, that isn’t really giving much time to God in any meaningful way, since sitting in a pew and listening to a sermon, perhaps singing, and perhaps taking communion doesn’t amount to having much personal contact with the living God. It takes more than that, both in terms of time and in terms of spiritual involvement. Jesus often spent all night in prayer, and I am beginning to learn how to do some of that; and what I am coming to see is that our most productive time with God is spent not in worship or in talking, but rather in silently listening. God knows so much more than we do! So we ought to let God be The One Who Talks.  

My greatest revelation from all my time spent in developing the content for teachingsbyjesus.com is the amazing discovery that Jesus so perfectly understands Consciousness. No, He really does! This young Man barely thirty years old knew two thousand years ago some complex scientific things that still puzzle modern physicists. That is, if they even risk daring to Go There. No kidding! And all of this amazing information has been in the Biblical Gospels for two thousand years, and has been altogether ignored by Christians, and by everybody else as well. At first, I thought I was imagining things. But as I began to put it all together, and I realized that what I was seeing was real, I came to understand ever more deeply that this is the real treasure. This is God’s Gift! This impossible fact that Master Jesus, born two thousand years ago, is in fact and literally a modern Man in all respects, a time-traveler, Someone Who can prove that He lived back then, and Who also can prove that He lives and He speaks to us now.

There was a time when mainstream science was known to be a proud and prominent search for truths that could be universally acknowledged. That time, of course, is long since past, and we even can almost name the day of its passing. It was roughly a hundred years ago, and I have come to dramatize its final day in my mind. I fondly envision dear bald Max Planck sort of running through the corridors of MIT perhaps, with a faintly smoking test tube raised and desperately crying out, “We cannot get behind consciousness! We cannot get behind consciousness!” Of course, that never actually happened. But Dr. Planck knew on that final day what he had found. And I like to think that he was glad about it.  

For those who may never have heard of Max Planck, he won the 1918 Nobel Prize in Physics as the father of quantum mechanics. Dear Max rocked the world of Newtonian physics a century ago, and I have been quoting him in this space for years because his quotations are in themselves endearing. He has been much in my mind during the past few months, brother Max working together with Master Jesus, as I have been deep in studying the kingdom of God and trying to get my mind around conclusions that I was at the same time pointlessly fighting because I was finding them to be so boggling. Oh Lord, here we go again! My Thomas was leading me, trying to stay no more than a step or two ahead of me, and Roberta was knowing where this was going and knowing that Thomas was going to be right yet again. But fighting him, anyway.

It is one thing to know that consciousness is all that exists. I am used to that concept. I have known it for years. And, okay, I was used to reading Dr. Planck’s words. He said in 1931, “I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness! Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” So, fine. So far, so good. But then I would read through those four Gospel books of the Christian Bible, repeatedly and minutely, watching and listening as two thousand years ago that entirely modern Man, so young and so brilliant, runs rings around those poor, befuddled Hebrew clergymen who could have had no idea what they were dealing with! Jesus would say to them things like, “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel around on sea and land to make one convert; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves! Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the Temple, that is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the Temple is obligated’” (MT 23:14-16). And the clergy would just stand there with their mouths hanging open. Then Jesus would say, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs that can be observed; nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For behold, the kingdom of God is within you(LK 17:20-22). And then it would be Roberta whose mouth would be hanging open, because my God, why did I never see this before? I must have read the Book of Luke a hundred times in my life, and the Book of Matthew as many times as well, and I never realized that Jesus was actually talking about Consciousness, for heaven’s sake! And especially in the Book of John? What ever was I thinking? It was only when I pulled together a great many things that Jesus had said in the Biblical Gospels that I realized that two thousand years ago Master Jesus, the genuine Son of God, had been working with Consciousness for His entire life, like any fully modern Man!

Consciousness is in fact God. They are one and the same. And Jesus knew that! Max Planck knew that! That was why dear Max couldn’t find a way to get behind Consciousness, no matter how hard he tried. What Dr. Planck had found was literally God Almighty! He won his 1918 Nobel Prize in Physics for some trivial discovery related to quantum mechanics, for heaven’s sake. But it should have been awarded for his scientific discovery of the genuine Creator of All Things, The One Almighty God.

I think the scientific gatekeepers knew, or at least they strongly suspected that fact. I think they knew their jig was up. They understood back then that the Christians had won their two-millennia-long battle over God vs. not-God, which was why that was when the scientific gatekeepers resorted to imposing on all future scientific research their “fundamental scientific dogma of materialism,” a dogma that is now a full century old. But of course, the Christians themselves had no clue because they know so little about Consciousness, and – amazingly – they seem never actually to read the Biblical Gospels, anyway. All they do is to occasionally quote the few bits of the Gospels that they like. But at least, now you and I know the truth! We can look back over the past century, and we can smile to find the precise historical moment when mainstream science discovered the true and eternal, the genuine living God.

My frustration in all of this is the fact that we are still the only ones who know. They won’t award a second Nobel Prize posthumously, but our friend Max Planck ought to get some sort of mention somewhere in the history books for having discovered scientifically the existence of God. And we will be breaking the news about what Jesus knew, and when He knew it, when teachingsbyJesus.com goes live toward the end of January.

I don’t know who will be amazed by our news, but we will be breaking it, all the same!

And as for you, my dear much-beloved friends, my hope is to entice you to begin to experiment with making 2023 the year when you will begin your much closer walk with God. You know now that Consciousness is all that exists, and that God is in fact Consciousness. You know, too, that your own mind is inextricably part of that same Consciousness – as is my own mind, and as is everyone else’s – and you know that the only thing that creates any separation at all among us is our belief in what is just a trivial illusion of separation! My goodness, after working on teachingsbyJesus.com’s materials for so long and so intensively, I know that fact now, more than I ever have. Jesus said, “Truly, truly I say to you, the one who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I am going to the Father. And whatever you ask in My name, this I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it! (JN 14:12-14). Jesus did an extraordinary amount of healing during His lifetime on earth, always by joining the powers of His mind with the powers of the mind of the person being healed. All Consciousness. All GOD.

And YES, Jesus did choose to be crucified. His body died on the cross, and He reanimated His dead body in order to prove to His followers that human life is eternal. I emphasize this fact yet again because a friend told me just this week that the Seth materials suggest that Jesus considered Himself to be above doing something so painful and messy for us, so He used a stand-in. If there is anyone else who still is confused about that, then I want to make this truth perfectly clear. And the Seth materials are apparently now shown to be bogus, sad to say.

But if you want to make this your year to accept Jesus’s challenge to “Seek, and you will find” (MT 7:7) a closer personal relationship with God, then here is what I suggest that you do:

  • Give up all screen entertainments. Especially all TV, movies, and videogames. Keep your phone only for communication, and your computer just for word-processing and doing essential research. Stop reading newspapers and newsmagazines as well. If you cannot cut the electronics cord forever just yet, then make your commitment for at least three months. Six months would be better. Or even a full year. You are doing this not only to free up time for God, but also – and even mostly – to free yourself from all stress-inducing stimulation of your mind.
  • Regularize your sleep habits to make room for God. Without TV, you may be able to negotiate with your life-partner for you to go to bed very early most nights. When I stopped watching TV more than 20 years ago and also started split-sleeping, we began to mostly sleep apart, which made sense. Now I am generally asleep by seven-thirty, and awake by twelve-thirty and ready to do my night-work session with Thomas. By three-thirty or four, I am ready to go back to sleep.
  • But on some nights now, between four and seven I will open myself to commune with God. I begin with The Lord’s Prayer, really thinking about the words as I say them. If I am weary, I will sometimes then fall asleep. But on some nights my mind will expand a little, and if I welcome that feeling of expansion, and I have been doing this for just the past week or so, I am already beginning to get the glorious sense of no-time and no-space. That awareness in your mind, the sense you have of being individually you, is in fact literally God as well. What I have found in the deep sacred night and being alone with God is the most extraordinary sense of my own preciousness that is beyond anything that I had heretofore imagined. Ideas will come and go, and I don’t try to hold them. It is my expectation that if I make a habit of this, God will use this new time with me in God’s Own way. I am eager to see what might come next!

Your own schedule with God will be different, of course. But it will be important that you get rid of screens, and important that you make a time mapped out on your new blank calendar at the same time every day or night over the next few months that belongs to you and God alone. And then really open yourself to God! Love God. Cherish God’s sweet and perfect love in return. As I say at the end of each Seek Reality podcast, God loves you in particular in all the universe, and God loves you most of all. And the wonder of it is, that is actually true.  

He speaks, and the sound of His voice
Is so sweet the birds hush their singing.
And the melody that He gave to me
Within my heart is ringing.
And He walks with me,
And He talks with me,
And He tells me I am His own,
And the joy we share as we tarry there
None other has ever known.
C. Austin Miles (1868-1946), from “In the Garden” (1912)

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34 thoughts on “You and God

  1. Happy New Year, Roberta, and thank you for your post. I have been reading the writings of a 1260 AD German Dominican Friar and his commentary on the Gospels is wonderful. Matt 16:24 states, “If anyone would follow Me, he must first deny Himself”. “Thyself”, according to this Friar, is the thinking mind’s conceptual sense of”self”—the illusory belief of who we are based upon our history, mental/emotional conditioning, personal experiences, desires, etc.; what some call the “ego”. It has been my personal experience that living as much of my daily life in a state of presence (i.e. not thinking but BEING in a state of awareness), I live as consciousness. Of course, when I need to think, I do. But when it’s not necessary, awareness allows me to sense my deeper self, the eternal, I am. That is what I believe you are talking about during the “deep sacred night” your post describes. What I have discovered is that by consciously bringing presence into my daily activities, the desire to engage in ANY negative situation (i.e. watching violent movies, the news, etc.), is totally gone. To be, discovering yourself as pure consciousness IS the portal to Jesus. I’ve often thought His lengthy solitary excursions as described in the Gospels were meditative in nature, a means to experience who we truly are, consciousness. My question to you is this: currently I am reading (and greatly enjoying) The Course in Miracles. Based upon my personal experience of living as much of my active daily life as consciousness, I interpret the “Holy Ghost” in The Course of Miracles as (one’s personal experience of) consciousness. Do you agree? To me it makes perfect sense because The Course in Miracles states that asking the Holy Ghost for “correct perception” to this world, will give you Vision. I interpret the Holy Ghost as discovering in yourself the spaciousness within, your recognition of your TRUE self as consciousness. Please tell me your thoughts on this fascinating work. I interpret The Course in Miracles as a guide that teaches people how to free themselves of the illusory, conditioned mind and to discover within themselves their true essence (consciousness). As Jesus says, to discover the Kingdom of Heaven, we must first be like little children (free from the barrier of our illusory ego sense of self; a state of consciousness that very young children experience simply because they have not formed a hardened “illusory” view of themselves or the world).
    Thank you for all you do!
    Joanna

    1. Oh Joanna!
      Thank you SO much for your insights! I feel a “newbie” in “just being” daily, but getting better and your commentary is so heartening! I really love your comment:
      “Thyself”, according to this Friar, is the thinking mind’s conceptual sense of”self”—the illusory belief of who we are based upon our history, mental/emotional conditioning, personal experiences, desires, etc.; what some call the “ego”.
      It “clicked” in me! I felt, “eureka! I get it now!”
      How fun that we can share like this! Thank you so much!
      Blessings,
      Fran

      1. My dear Fran, it interests me that you bring up the ego. Jesus uses Consciousness in the Gospels like an expert, but He seems not to even think about the ego, when we are so into worrying about the ego. I wondered about that as I was putting His teachings together. It’s possible that He talked about it, but what He said was lost because it went over people’s heads and that was one reason why He came back with A Course in Miracles. I really don’t know. But I don’t think you really miss it, in His Gospels teachings as they come together – I think the primary role of love makes worrying about the ego unnecessary.

    2. Oh yes, my dear Joanna, I am confident that Jesus led the group that channeled A Course in Miracles, and I urge people to do the Course (with a study group, ideally), but I do not at all agree with the Dominican Friar who wants people to deny themselves. He is following the Roman religion’s view of Jesus, and not Jesus Himself! Jesus said, “I came so that they would have life, and have it more abundantly!!” (JN 10:10)

      1. Dearest Roberta,

        When Meister Eckhart, the Dominican Friar, explains “deny thyself”, he’s referring to the illusory ego as described in The Course in Miracles. What is so fascinating about this thirteenth century clergy is his beautiful interpretation which had been in opposition to “the Roman religion’s view of Jesus”; Meister Eckhart was accused of heresy for his teachings of the Gospels.

  2. Good Morning Roberta, and a very happy and joyful New Year to you! No doubt, it will be a joyful year with Jesus’ new website coming to fruition.
    Today’s post leaves me feeling so excited, happy like a kid, cozy and peaceful. I told Jesus yesterday morning, as I often do, how the quiet morning time I devote to prayer, quiet reflection and writing and communing leaves me feeling so strong, so clear, so sure that I can do anything. And then I pause and laugh that,
    “and then I go out into the world”, and it’s like a faded memory.
    But, I’ve gotten better at pausing at work (retail), and “touching base” and recentering myself.
    I feel and “know” at a deep level that God is Consciousness, yet I also know that I still have that attachment to the material concept of “me” as a body (as well as everyone else). That seems to be my little “inner battle” right now. LOL. It’s funny, just like with you and Thomas when you know he’s right but you’ll fight anyway, I sense I know the truth, but I’ll have this skirmish anyway. Ironically, I opened to the chapter of “surrender” in the book I have been contemplating/reading of late, Surrender to the Stillness by Anne Olsson. HaHaHa…it goes perfectly with your blog today! Oh God is hilarious.
    Thank you for offering ideas and methods that have worked for you in opening more to communing with God. I have cut back on “screen time” considerably; if my husband is not home or watching tv, it’s not on. But the phone! (I am laughing at myself right now) I realize my monkey mind is always seeking “something” to look at. It’s pretty interesting that my email on my phone is suddenly not working properly! As I sit here reflecting on your message, I am amazed at little experiences that have popped up over the past few months of the phone issue, my husband totally fine with sleeping in separate rooms, even instigating it (and I usually have a terrific night’s sleep), waking before the alarm or in the middle of the night, and lately “discussing” making “time” (meaningful time)for Father (God), with Father…asking for His help in doing that, and being open to new experiences (like “split sleep”).
    It’s times like this-your blog so “in sync” with not just my experiences but many others that make me smile. I have this feeling this year is a year for many of us to simply walk away from the old ingrained patterns with ease and grace.
    Have a most perfect and joyful week ahead, everyone!
    Love,
    Fran

    1. Hi Fran
      I can so relate to what you said. I’m in retail too. I start every day with spiritual reading and meditation determined that this day will be different and then as the madness builds (especially at this time of the year) I find myself struggling to maintain those feelings of peace and love and have to try to remember to step back and think about what’s really important in life. Interestingly, on Friday I had just started meditating when I suddenly remembered that I was supposed to be starting work early that day so I had to jump up and run. I was like a bear with a sore head all day. The hours seemed to drag and so many little things irritated me. Proof positive that meditation is the way for me to start everyday.
      And yes I am guilty of coming home at night tired and demoralised and just turning on the TV or scrolling so that I can mentally switch off. I know I need to change this but I’ve been resisting so I will make a concentrated effort to change from today.
      I love your observation that we need to walk away from old ingrained patterns as this is something I’ve also be feeling very deeply for some months now. I frequently think that I’d like to just give all the madness of this life up and go off to some retreat centre to serve and pray. However for the time being Spirit has clearly decided that I’ll make the most spiritual growth dealing with rampant consumerism and challenging people who are reminding me to look behind their behaviour and see the love within them so I try to accept and even be grateful for that.
      I hope to have a peaceful and blessed week as well,
      Lisa x

        1. Dear Lisa,
          I knew what you meant🤭. It is very uplifting to know I’m not an “anomaly” in trying to maintain spiritual balance in a place that promotes “rampant consumerism”. Every corner must be touched by his grace and light🙏🏻, so I join my heart with yours in bringing peace into this aspect of the world! I was, for some time, ashamed of my profession in retail even as a manager, in comparison to my doctor, engineers, chemist, teachers, nurses, police siblings.
          Once, I was unable to attend a sibling’s wedding, and lamented to my dad about it. My doctor brother also could not attend, my dad told me. My response was that he had purpose, he had a “real” reason for not attending while I was “just in retail”. My dad, shocked, responded that I provided “service”, that I was in service, and despite what the “outer wrapping” (retail) was, I was where God wanted me to be of service. We’ll both have to remember that😄. I do have to share that I noticed a MARKED difference in demeanor of customers this year; more patience, more pleasantries, more understanding. I hope you had times like that too❤️ Fran

          1. Yes it’s so inspiring to know I’m not alone in trying to bring spirituality into a place that values sales figures and feedback above all.
            Thank you also for sharing what your dad said. It’s true I also view my occupation and contribution to the world as lesser than other people’s especially as I have trained as a death doula and have been unable to work in that field.
            I’m going to follow Roberts’s advice and work everyday to let my walk with God be a closer one and try to get my ego out of the way and be the best I can be in the place that I’m currently in. Yes you’re right the majority of the customers are lovely. Another thing to be grateful for xx

      1. Oh my dear Lisa, what might help might be having a spiritual book or practice that you could look forward to in the evening instead. Or some music that you love. I love certain very emotional pieces of classical and semi-classical music – currently, Rhapsody in Blue is at the top of that list – and I’ll listen to that while I clean out emails. I don’t have access to a TV, so I can’t turn one on. And whatever you end up doing, there is no guilt in it! That is one thing that Jesus really came to absolutely clean out of our minds. The only thing to feel bad about is a lack of love. He came to reset our minds about that entirely!

    2. Oh my sweet Fran, how very special you are! I am trying hard to maintain your relaxed and playful sense in this time which is really so serious for me. I mean, the religion is crashing. And clearly, that is by design. I have spent months teasing meaning out of literally every word that Jesus spoke in those three and a half years, and finding such amazing results that I couldn’t even believe what I was getting, but when I tried to get a reality check with Jesus – and more than once – Thomas wouldn’t let me remember those meetings except little bits of them in which Jesus basically has looked at me as if I was suddenly pathetic for not understanding simple English. My God, is it possible that nobody in the religion has ever actually read the Gospels? No wonder Jesus has felt the need for this website! He has the patience of Job, that He hasn’t long since climbed the Empire State Building like Godzille or King Kong or whatever and shouted, “For heaven’s sake, “READ THE GOSPELS!”

      So I am feeling pressures, my dear lovely Fran, which fortunately don’t touch you at all! So it is lovely on Sunday mornings to be able to simply read your comments, and relax a bit, and smile.

      1. Another reason to be grateful to you for doing all the hard work…yet even as I write that, I feel a sense of “relax now, the work is coming “ toward the “rest of us”😉. I think floodgates are about to open🤔 and a lot of help for those who suddenly pop awake will be needed.
        (Lisa and I got retail covered 🤭….lol! )

        1. Oh my dear Fran, we’ll see! At the start of each year I wonder whether this might be the year when people will begin to “pop awake,” as you say. But there is still so much fear! Well, we shall see….

      1. Happy New Year dearest Roberta, to you and your family. Happy New year to you Mike and all your loved ones. To every one I wish the best, most spiritually uplifting 2023!

        Regardless of what the cacophonous, worldwide human drama serves up, I have a feeling it is going to be a wonderful year for those in Spirit .
        🙏🏼❣️🎉🌅

        1. Oh yes, dear wonderful Efrem, every year is a wonderful year for those in Spirit, and for them there is no time at all….

  3. Happy New Year, Roberta,

    On April 1st, I was given Shay,my gift from God, a liver!
    .2018
    What ensued was 3 years of nausea. I kept waking up!
    Finally, a local doctor found the med that overnight took
    my nausea away. An antidepressant!
    l still love TV! Especially the news
    I love 🎶 music.
    l love food again
    I began writing progress notes.
    My favorite one is
    “I want being here to be fun.”

    1. Thank you for being so determined, Erica! You are an inspiration!!! Many more blessings be yours in the year ahead!!!

    2. Oh my dear Erica, I am so happy that you finally feel well! But do you know the great thing about news? They keep making more of it. No, two great things. They keep making more of it, and whatever is news today is olds tomorrow, so if you skip it today you won’t miss it. I haven’t watched the news for more than 20 years. I figure that if there is a war or something, someone will think to mention it to me. And meanwhile, my liver (whose name is Mildred) is so much more relaxed!

    3. Dear Erica, May your wonderful new liver, Shay, and your good self have a flourishing, loving relationship for many memorable years to come. May you have much fun together!

      You inspire me, my dear. 🌅🎉❣️

  4. Hi Roberta. Happy New Year. I hope you aren’t saying we should all give up your wonderful Seek Reality podcasts! 😁 Seriously though, I find that the more I keep my mind on the spiritual ideals and practices you have been teaching us, and trying to sense Jesus’ unconditional love growing in my heart more and more, most TV, radio, etc just starts to repel me, like oil and water. It’s sort of like an addiction or bad habit that slowly fades, no forcing needed, and it is the same with the conditioned negative thinking and reacting, or bloodymindedness as my guides called it (I love that one) fading away, as the mind gets clearer and quieter, less and less will disrupt my equanimity or set me off. I think you’re right about carving out a regular time for meditation or spiritual practice, but also, like an addiction of the positive kind, one can sneak in a second or a third as opportunity allows, and eventually even a few minutes of free time can become a quick check-in to listen internally and center. I hope this will lead me at some point to a fairly steady state of presence, of intent to stay aligned with God’s will, seeing Him in all whom I meet, and listening for the guidance on how to best accomplish that or bring me back when I slip, what I like to call living like a prayer. Do you think the second coming of Jesus was meant to be internally, in the heart of each of those who truly understand and follow His teachings? Is that what He hopes to initiate in the world now? I’m really looking forward to Jesus’ website. Thanks for all you do. I don’t know how you manage it.

    1. Oh my dear lovely Scott, I can’t speak for Jesus, but He seems to be quite focused now on starting over again from the beginning. And now that everything is with the website developers, I am feeling kind of lost – working can be an addiction, too. I realized that yesterday afternoon, when I was suddenly caught up on everything. Even my blog post for next weekend was written! No client work. I was ready to do my next Seek Reality interview. This has not happened in years. So I went into the family room and sat down. My husband, of course, immediately paused some movie that he and my daughter were watching – they know better than to have a TV going with me in the room – and they seemed not to mind, but I was all fidgety about suddenly not working. I’m not sure that’s healthy, but I’m simply wired that way. 🙂

      1. May Love swoop in and surround you, Roberta! I, and many others know quite well how you feel. We are “wired” that way too. Ironically, I am on a “day off” today, and usually, I find and make myself work to do here at home. Today though, I spent much time “chatting” with God and Jesus and Heaven and include them in anything that comes up-going to post office, letters, play with dogs. Each time I get a bit nervous for “not working!” (said in the voices of my elders of my youth, sigh) I thank God for my day off and find something to talk to him about.

  5. Roberta: Where did you hear Seth was bogus? He agrees 100% with what is discussed here, and he said these things decades ago. (He even predicted the end of Christianity)

    1. Dear Lola, I don’t know much about the Seth materials, actually. But someone has just recently said that Seth tells us that Jesus was not crucified but instead He sent a surrogate to the cross in His place. And if Seth said that, then everything that Seth says must be considered to be altogether discredited!

      1. But he said the same things that are said here. Even his description of the afterlife is identical. He even said some of the same things Mikey Morgan said many years later. It is odd about the Jesus thing. Jane was ill toward the end and maybe someone else “sneaked in” and made up that story. This is a common problem for those who do channeling.

        1. Yes, my dear, true. And it is very possible that someone misspoke to me. I don’t mean to discredit Seth if Seth wasn’t out to discredit Jesus! But there is no question that Jesus went to the cross Himself, and anyone who says otherwise is lookin’ for trouble !

  6. Dearest Roberta,

    With so many great and insightful posts, how could add another meaningful post, so all I can do is wish you a wonderful New Year and much success to teachingsbyjesus.com .

    Yours
    Cookie

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