Posted by Roberta Grimes • July 27, 2024 • 22 Comments
Human Nature, Jesus
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored.
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword!
His truth is marching on.
Glory, Glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah! His truth is marching on.
I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps.
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps.
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps.
His day is marching on.
Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah! His day is marching on.
– Julia Ward Howe (1819-1910) & John William Steffe (1830-1890), from “Battle Hymn of the Republic” (1862).
My beloved Thomas and I are still trying to figure out which one of us has won our bet of last week, or even if in fact there ever was a bet that was formally entered between us. Thomas thought it was important that we write a blog post about the flat-out, beyond-amazing moment when God intervened just as someone tried to assassinate one of the American presidential candidates. Thomas wanted to use that horrifying incident as a teaching moment about some of the very rare times when God actually does in fact play an active role in human events, and he wanted to talk about why and how God might ever want to intervene. Thomas was pretty pumped about our using God’s saving of Donald Trump’s life as a teaching moment. But I, on the contrary, was sure that if we wrote about that when things in this country are at such a fever pitch of negativity as they are right now, all that we were going to get would be a whole lot of vitriol thrown at us. No one was going to want to learn from that event anything nuanced about how God might work in the world.
So, who was right? I think that I was more right in this case than he was. Actually, those commenters who read our blog post last week before commenting did try to do what we had requested, and they viewed this as an exercise in better understanding how God sometimes works in the world, rather than just voicing their personal animosity for the candidate who had been shot and only wounded. And we do so very much appreciate those honest commenters who spoke so wisely and so well! There were other people, though, who ferreted out even from a distance the possibility that here was yet another spot where they might have a chance to voice their hatred for Donald Trump, and they attempted to pile on and do that. Fortunately, I get to approve first-time commenters, so I spared you all their loathsome bile. And as I was doing that, Thomas said, “Well, we’ve got a great topic for next week’s blog post, if nothing else.”
Wow, was he ever right about that! I don’t think that we ever have talked about hatred as a blog topic here, not once in our more than ten years of writing these weekly posts. How can we have missed such an obvious topic? Hatred is both sadly almost universal and currently highly topical. It is something that those who fall victim to it tend so often to see as even actually a virtue. Surely some of those who were in the grips of hatred and commented on our post of last week felt virtuous about their hatred. Which fact astonished me.
I was about to begin by telling you that hatred is useless, and then to go on and tell you how spiritually damaging hatred is to the hater. But no, there is indeed one situation in which hatred can be useful, so let’s first just mention that. The only situation in which hatred can be useful is in the case of an all-out war meant to end in the civilizational death of one set of combatants. Yes, I will indeed cede to you that point. So that is the topic of our frame-verse today, and a lovely frame-verse it is indeed, even if we all hope that we never will have to sing it! Killing another human being is not a natural thing, so if you have to go to war for real, then by all means, gin up in yourself some hatred so you can become a sure-enough killer. But is there an all-out war at that level going on for you at this moment? No? Then no one has any justification for hating anyone else, nor for assuming that God hates anyone at all!
Never having talked about nor written about hatred, I am not sure how even to begin to write about it now. In fact, in peacetime there is nothing that is good or useful about hatred on any level. Not for the hater, not for the one being hated, and not for the world at large. So, let’s begin there:
We in the northern American states watched in amazement during the nineteen-fifties and -sixties as the schools in some of our southeastern states had to be racially integrated by armed police. And all because some light-skinned American southerners had taught themselves over time to hate dark-skinned people. Do you see how this works? Once hatred gains a foothold in people’s minds, it is incredibly so easily self-reinforcing. And it ends altogether even the possibility of any spiritual growth in those who espouse it, which is why some southern churches even to this day are sadly full of whole congregations that are oddly insular and permanently angry.
Ginned-up hatred of an opposition leader is sometimes used by politicians as a tool to rile up their bases. It is now being used pretty forcefully by some Democrats against Mr. Trump, probably because, as I remarked last week, I think it is easy to see Trump as a highly distasteful public figure. He has a huge ego, he makes up nasty names for people, he insists on always being right, he loves to show off his wealth, and he was a big womanizer when he was young: what is there not to dislike about this man? But you cannot give in to the temptation to hate Donald Trump without risking the complete destruction of your own spiritual progress for this lifetime. For my own part, I have successfully resisted the temptation to hate him by looking at his children, all of whom seem by every account to be happy and successful drug- and vice-free adults who all remain close to and idolize their father. There must be something good in Donald Trump, because a loving fatherhood of five adult children when three mothers are involved is a difficult trick to pull off, and it does not happen by chance. I also consider the fact that Trump’s presidential term was much better for his country than was Joe Biden’s term that followed it, from the Abraham Accords and no foreign wars to a decent economy with low inflation and a surplus of oil right down to the efficiently closed southern border. I also have received a couple of emails during this past week from people who told me about some surprising private kindnesses from Donald Trump that he never has wanted to make public. So I focus on just these good things. I ignore the things that I always have disliked about the man.
What does our beloved Jesus say about hate? He says very little, actually. “Hate” is such a strongly negative word that Jesus seldom uses it. But only consider this string of statements in the Gospel of John that comes toward the end of the Lord’s earthly life as He is preparing His disciples to go out into the world and teach the Lord’s Way:
“For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed” (JN 3:20).
“The world cannot hate you, but it hates Me because I testify of it, that its deeds are evil” (JN 7:7).
“If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you” (JN 15:18-19).
“He who hates Me hates My Father also. If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would not have sin; but now they have both seen and hated Me and My Father as well. But they have done this to fulfill the word that is written in their Law, ‘They hated Me without a cause’” (JN 15: 23-25).
So, the Christianity which should have been rooted in the love-based teachings of Jesus alone, was instead founded by the Roman Emperor Constantine some three hundred years after Jesus’s resurrection and ascension. And it was based not on anything that Jesus taught, but instead it was based on the Emperor Constantine’s own fear-based ideas about Jesus’s having died for our sins. To ensure his false Christianity’s success, Constantine massacred or drove off into the deep desert every follower of Jesus who would not convert to His own fear- and hatred-based religion.
As we now contemplate the evils of a political system that uses the ginning-up of hatred in us of one politician against another, we must never forget one crucial fact. We come to earth to raise our personal spiritual vibration more toward love! That is the whole reason why we even are here in the first place. But if we submit to these hatred-filled political games, even for a moment, we might well be rendering useless and wasted our entire lifetime that is now being lived upon this earth!
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel
“As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal.”
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.
Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah! Since God is marching on!
He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat!
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! Be jubilant, my feet!
Our God is marching on.
Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah! Our God is marching on!
In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me.
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free!
While God is marching on.
Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah! While God is marching on.
– Julia Ward Howe (1819-1910) & John William Steffe (1830-1890), from “Battle Hymn of the Republic” (1862).
Dear Roberta,
You wrote: “The only situation in which hatred can be useful is in the case of an all-out war meant to end in the civilizational death of one set of combatants. Yes, I will indeed cede to you that point. So that is the topic of our frame-verse today, and a lovely frame-verse it is indeed, even if we all hope that we never will have to sing it! Killing another human being is not a natural thing, so if you have to go to war for real, then by all means, gin up in yourself some hatred so you can become a sure-enough killer.”
Is hatred necessary to kill another human in the case of war? Can’t it be out of love to safe the world from oppressors, like Hitler and the like?
I was organist for the US Soldiers’ and Airmen’s Home in Washington DC and noticed that widowed veterans from WWII were spiritually generally in good shape (I didn’t notice any PTSD), as were those from the Korean War. It is a different story with those who had been in the Vietnam war, which also was so badly received by the American public, so there was PTSD and imposed guilt. This is a well-known fact, actually.
Adrian,
Does G_d hate the “fallen angels” ?
Why not FORGIVENESS there,
rather than the HATRED of eternal
damnation ?
“Hatred” is DISLIKE of the other’s
countervailing opinion. So, nobody
is without hatred—as it’s being opin-
ionated, sometimes to the degree of
effecting violence.
As for PTSD, it is product of not
allowing the brain to heal—of
psychologists advising war-
damaged veterans to revisit the
TRAUMA, over and over and
over again, sometimes for
decades, in the case of Vietnam
vets.
WW-II men just forgot the trauma,
by NOT TALKING/Revisiting it.
So-called “talk-therapy” explains
ongoing psychological damage,
making psychologists rich.
Blame Freud, who had used hyp-
nosis in his beginning practice,
which had been incredibly effec-
tive. Then, he realized he could
make far more money by simply
using talk-therapy, having his
patients come back again and
again to plumb the meanings in
dreams.
-Rick
Rick, GOD CANNOT HATE. Period. God is infinite perfect love, which is the highest consciousness vibration and drives out all hatred.
Well, my dearly beloved Adrian, I guess you’ve got me there! Some people have gone to war out of love of country, for sure. If your beloved country, your family, and all that you hold dear is at risk, then you will fight, and you will kill. You make a wonderful point, my very dear one!
Thank you, Roberta
I am so happy to be of help, my very dear dear one!
Dear Roberta,
Thank you for writing this long overdue post. Brilliant and so very true! I hope that people understand just how huge of a role that the media plays on this very subject, encouraging their viewers to hate on certain individuals. And it comes from all sides.
Hugs,
Brigette
My much-beloved Brigette, how very well and wisely said! A lot of the hatred in the world is created and perpetuated by the media, simply to generate views.
I am reading the books by author Svali about her time in the Jesuit order. From the information shared it seems there is indeed a war being fought for God or Lucifer. If this information is fully true, we have war being waged on us and are totally unaware of it or the consequences. Do you have any information from Thomas on this subject that you are able to share and enlighten the public?
My dear Myron, this is the first that I have heard of it, and Thomas doesn’t want to talk about it here. He says that all such spirit-level conflicts, which have happened on occasion, are leakages from conflicts in the religious earth-world into the world of spirit.
Hi Myron. Many of us don’t think that there is an entity with any power named Lucifer. Negative forces don’t have much power at all. I would suggest not reading anything that would cause you to have fear. We are living in an illusory world for our benefit.
I doubt if God hates the fallen angels. Dislike of the opinions or actions of others does not constitute hate although it can be the first step in that direction. Such dislikes are the price one pays for living up to standards, be they those set by Jesus or whomever one chooses to follow.
Oh my dear Thomas, well said my dear one! God cannot hate because God is only love, but – as you say – God can reject what is repellent and wrong in God’s view. Down through all the ages, and even today, there have been those who thought that they knew better than God, or who thought that they had created shortcuts to God. A certain aggressive middle eastern religion that I will not name is only the latest. But all these supposed shortcuts cannot pass one simple test: they are not based in love, so they produce only misery and war. And as Jesus said, you will know them by their fruits.
Dear Roberta. The law of attraction holds that like attracts like.
Thomas Eberhard mentioned last week about the negative energy being a drag on the spiritual advancement of all of humanity.
My dear Ray, you are precisely right! The negative effects of hatred are powerful, and they are pervasive; once someone really gets into it, the tricky think about hatred is that in its way, hatred can feel almost as satisfying and virtuous as love. But these are false and poisonous good feelings! You see people in mobs who are animated by hatred and rage, and you can only pity them as you watch them destroying their own spiritual lives.
Dear Roberta. The great news is, as you have often said, is that it doesn’t take that many of us who love to raise the consciousness vibration of all humanity.
Thank you for the insightful post, Roberta. I’ve found myself literally hating the “politicians” and governor of my state, which is California. And it doesn’t feel good. This is a stark reminder of why we’re here and I think we need to try and find the good in everyone…kind of like you described Trump with all of his flaws, but then mentioned some telling signs that there must be good things about him.
Oh my dear wonderful Mark, thank you for this! You have given me the wonderful feeling that you read what we wrote, and that makes me so happy!
Dearest Roberta,
I feel for you, especially this week. I can only imagine the awful and aggressive things some people have said to you due to last week’s blog. 😖 I guess some individuals spend years honing their nastiness, so they can thrust it at others to aggress and hurt them. They get twisted pleasure from their attacks no doubt. You spared us, your blog family, from this boiling vitriol but faced the brunt of it yourself.
We are with you; I send you hugs my dear. May all negativity fall away from you Roberta. May The Agape hold you close and sooth you. 🌅❣️
Actually this week’s blog post doesn’t pull its punches either. Good on Thomas and your good self for telling it like it is!! I always enjoy the plain speaking in this blog.
Roberta, I am nudged from within to see the ‘soul view’ of hatred as best I can:
– There is naught but Consciousness and experiences. This so-called material world is illusory and it is will pass away.
– We are each part of Eternal Consciousness. We are in fact eternal beings ourselves, and part of each other within God Consciousness.
– Therefore, to hate another person is to hate part of oneself. So how foolish is that?
In terms of human experiences, I think of the human world as the ebb and flow of love. Humans are a mixed bag. Yet they often give and withdraw their love. At least that has been my experience in this life.
Some people love you for a time, then this feeling fades and they walk away and forget you. Others love deeply and are with you for life, whether as partner, spouse, family or friend. There are many who declare they love you, but are faddish and are soon gone. There are some who don’t voice their feeling but quietly love you always…
Human beings – damn human beings – have taught me this: Love is fickle, temporary and superficial; It can grow cold. Yet in some individuals it does indeed endure.
Also, human love can be killed by betrayal, by judging, by hurt, by ever growing pride. Sometimes it may polarize to become hatred. Human love can flip to its opposite. Disturbingly, the love that feeds the soul can become hatred that corrodes the soul.
I wish more people would listen to Brother Jesus. Resentment long held and accumulated can become hatred. This is the ultimate bad tree. I wish people would understand that the bad tree of hatred (and violence) so evident around the world nowadays only produces rotten fruit; It only spreads death, destruction and agonizing loss. Nothing good comes from it.
Would that more people choose to hold to the good Tree of Life and Love that produces only good fruit forever. 🌅🙏🏼🕊❣️
Oh my sweet and beautiful and so much beloved Efrem, thank you so much for this! All so beautifully said! You know, I was thinking as I read what you wrote that I have so many so very dear and wonderful friends for life, and yet none of them except my family members live in Austin. How weird is that??
Roberta,
Thank you for your post. Living in a politically driven society it can be overwhelming trying to see the good in everyone. I’ve found your wisdom very helpful. If you strip away the suits, titles, egos and everything else that a politician has to wear in the end they are simply human beings. I’m a republican but have found it disheartening the way some of my friends and family have made fun of President Bidens medical issues. I don’t get involved in the negativity and simply look at him the way I would look at my own grandfather.
At this point in my life I vote out of respect for those that have paid a price for that freedom. I’m learning to leave my political views in the voting booth and walk out a brother to all. Thank you for helping me to make that change.
Oh my dearly beloved Kevin, so beautifully and so very wisely said! If only more of us could think as you do, my dear one, just imagine how much more glorious this world could be!